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tiberiusiv: no they arent
mjr_: which is why all the other gambling sites are there too
mjr_: and ireland doesn't have that
tiberiusiv: the farmer is licensed to sell it to me
mjr_: unless there is legislation STOPPING you
mjr_: under what license are you allowed to buy milk?
tiberiusiv: mjr_: second off it doesnt matter if satoshidice is in ireland, they have no gaming license to make them legal in ANY jurisdiction.
tiberiusiv: mjr: i dont have to keep going, the market is indicating a 30% dividend for a reason, if it was safe the price of satoshi would be 2-3x what it is now.
tiberiusiv: 2) hes also a memeber of the "cash in" service bitinstant
mjr_: and that is a very small window
tiberiusiv: 1) voorhees is in the US
ThickAsThieves: div is 0 this month
tiberiusiv: and the dividend yield would be in the single digits.
mjr_: ie. the 87% of the company which they own
tiberiusiv: wanting those profits
tiberiusiv: yes and everyone would BID THEM UP
mjr_: they are simply passing through most of THEIR profits to most of their stakeholders
ThickAsThieves: by the market, do you mean mtgox?
tiberiusiv: mjr: the market is saying satoshi dice is risky
mjr_: that is only if bitcoins are regulated in gambling, which no one has said they are so far
mjr_: that aint the whole world
tiberiusiv: of course it will have the highest payouts
mjr_: in the case that aliens land on earth...
ThickAsThieves: "In the case where VirtEx is bought out by another company or VirtEx pays a dividend to its shareholders, Bitcoin shareholders will get paid in Bitcoin at the Canadian dollar equivalent rate using the best market prices at the time"
tiberiusiv: thickasthieves: yes because volumes have increased only in the last 3months
ThickAsThieves: "To date all revenues have been used for business and website development, legal fees, computer hardware and marketing. All available capital is being used to grow the company and complete the business plan items."
mjr_: i don't want to sell
tiberiusiv: mjr_ they will pay dividends out.
mjr_: is that if i believe in the company
tiberiusiv: nobody else cashes out as fast as they do so far in north america
mjr_: but i'm sure they will do well
tiberiusiv: collecting at least 2% of that for themselves
mjr_: and haven't looked into them
tiberiusiv: ca virtex traded $800k in the last week
mjr_: but that is how you would turn that revenue not into profit
mjr_: i don't know their profit
tiberiusiv: how do they have 0 profit when hes collecting 2-3% off of $150k a day?
tiberiusiv: look at his trade volume
ThickAsThieves: they have 0 profit to date
tiberiusiv: and a major one at that
ThickAsThieves: doesnt mean theyll turn a profit
tiberiusiv: thickasthieves: cavirtex has better transparency then anything out there so far imo, his statements have to be audited by multiple 3rd parties
ThickAsThieves: i'll skip to you telling me how there's not as much risk as one might think
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 minutes and 42 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves: could you gift me Kerbel Space Program
smickles: ;;seen thestringpuller
ThickAsThieves: maybe not, but still plenty risk there
ThickAsThieves: just addressing that things have to dip pretty damn low to be worth the risk of sitting on fiat
smickles: dunno, I'd bet not long tho
ThickAsThieves: but how long was his fiat sitting there waiting for that lost opportunity
smickles: and i think bugpowder said he missed the bottom by .20 usd
smickles: mjr_: also, i caught that. and it reminded me of the video of the guy who recorded the crash from 30 to 0 which was eventually rolled back due to it being caused by a hack
mjr_: they'll be like "it used to be 65???"
mjr_: from 55 to 65...
mjr_: we'll be telling young kids in years about when it used to jump ten points
mjr_: bunch of people working on bringing more efficiency to the market
mjr_: but damn it is fun to watch
ThickAsThieves: (late response to smickles)
mjr_: especially if you were leveraged 5 to 1 on bitfinex
mjr_: easy way to make a shit ton of money if you caught that bottom...
mjr_: smickles: here is something funny to watch though
mjr_: ThickAsThieves: those estimates won't mean anything till we get a bigger sample size
mjr_: smickles: thanks
smickles: scary batman double top
smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56025.msg666745#msg666745 << this is one of them mjr_
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 7882079.03307 based on data since last change | 7826894.02138 based on data for last three days
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 70.59701, Best ask: 70.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38299, Last trade: 70.98000, 24 hour volume: 46477.06384271, 24 hour low: 60.37000, 24 hour high: 71.43825, 24 hour vwap: 66.26052
mjr_: but not only is there volatility...its also volatility of volume and size
mjr_: and they can move the price dollars up or down
mjr_: only a handful of really big traders
mjr_: how does a chart possibly tell me someone is going to unload a half a mill cuz they decided to buy a house
mjr_: simple point is that just cuz it did that .5 seconds ago, means jack shit to what it does in the next .5 seconds...especially when you have such a small sample size
mjr_: bear traps
smickles: mjr_: where you around back when someone claimed to have spotted a head and shoulders int the btc/usd price a while ago? it became a small meme when someone else colored it like batman
mjr_: i mean that guy not you by the way
mjr_: and yeah, you can retrofit any theory to back up your chart patterns...at the beginning of a "head and shoulders" very few can successfully call the head and shoulders...you see it after it has happened
mjr_: smickles: yeah, it is a beast of a truck
smickles: see my refutation using actual studies to back it up
smickles: jeez, that thing tears the fuck out of the land
mjr_: only a few military grade trucks could outperform you...and they wouldn't look as cool :)
mjr_: speaking of which, anyone seen the 6 wheel mercedes g-wagon?
KRS1: this is a great link thanks smickles
mjr_: none of these mean that it HAS to go up...any guy who wants to buy himself a nice car could drop the price signifigantly
mjr_: coinbase seems to be quite fucked in fulfilling demand
mjr_: they aint going there to sell i bet
mjr_: 5500 accounts waiting to open ongox
KRS1: which point to high volitility but overall health
wao: mjr_: downloading rogue trader
smickles: KRS1: take a look at the charts on http://blockchained.com/ for the affect of diff changes on price
mjr_: this aint a market like that
mjr_: in an efficient market, with a lot of liquidity, you would see the jump in difficulty priced in
KRS1: thanks ill take from that and try to grasp it
mjr_: i haven't really sold at all...but i have a price target that i want to hit by 2014
mjr_: i'm just thinking out loud
mjr_: that should go back to around 10
mjr_: think the miners were doing a block every 6-7 minutes
mjr_: that SHOULD tamp down on the supply flowing in
mjr_: we are down from the high...
mjr_: what tells you it should be going down by now?
KRS1: market price on mt gox makes no sense to me..everything i know about markets tells me it should have been going down by now. i'm not an expert by anymeans however.
mjr_: its an amazing trading movie