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phf: worse case he'll just fail, but probably at
the limit of what he can do
phf: i'm sure a russian with an electron microscope would love nothing more
than do a careful job on a bonafide fritz chip
phf: asciilifeform: no need
to, i have all
the relevant bits, just need
to package
them for you
phf: asciilifeform: smash it out carefully, could mail it
to zeptobars, maybe get some idea what sort of beast we're dealing with..
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 20:47 mircea_popescu: pshaw. i'm willing
to pay for
the board
this is
tested on.
mircea_popescu: yes. which is also why i
think
this is where
the levee should break
mircea_popescu: anyway, back
to it :
the cp50's point of interest is,
that it has a connection
to power button.
this is a single line, is it ?
mircea_popescu: they exist out of "mandating" ie, posturing what
the actual people should od.
phf: this is
the kind of stuff phrack was supposed
to
talk about, but meanwhile
the community was gutted..
phf: right, i did
try mouser/digikey first
mircea_popescu: so
then cr50 is
the firmware, and
the hardware is actually some kind of bulk chip ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 21:03 asciilifeform: it is called cr50. also seems
to go by 'h1 secure microcontroller'
phf: no no, i'm
trying
to clarify
the sort of embarrassed i felt when i read his blog. but in
the case of russians it was misunderstanding, in
this case
though it's something else entirely..
phf: i mean, it's a different scenario, but
that must be
the feeling americans felt in
the situations like
that
phf: it reminded me of how sometimes russian academics had problems with
their american peers: some of
those russians learned english from VHS, so found it acceptable
to use ebonics in speech.
mircea_popescu: scoff all you want, but as burl ives put it, "it's always
there in
the morning, ain't it".
phf: "hey guys why don't we publish
the secret chip bypass? -- what are you, some kind of
terrorist/tinfoil??"
phf: and as much as i sometimes scoff at
the lizard hitler suggestion,
the whole narrative,
tacitly supported by
the relevant designer, is very much it.
mircea_popescu: which, afaik, is
the most widely deployed fritzchip in empire.
mircea_popescu: interesting link btw. what is
this,
the indians are
taking over
the usg "compliance" part altogether ?
to
the point
the blather is
taught in india but not us ?!
mircea_popescu: i do not beleive it is. i expect
they just bought something.
mircea_popescu: are you basically saying
this is not an ennumerable class ?
mircea_popescu: i went
through list of jtag-sitters, saw
that and whatever atmel bs.
mircea_popescu: i don't explain
the cockoraches, mr alfstein. i just exterminate
them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, my suspicion is
that your "no cr 50" will simply mean "they put it in
the die of a diff ic, and you can't find it"
mircea_popescu: "oh, use
this other one instead,
terrorist, as you seem hell bent on breaking
the chip off.
this other one has it in
the die, so you can't see it, will be all good"
mircea_popescu: so no, you're not going
to find "a board without". you might find one where it's poorly attached and can be hammered off. but
that's all.
mircea_popescu: i expect
they're mandated in all usg-"technology" since many years back.
mircea_popescu: reason he made
the suggestion is
that he bets on your failing
to accurately
test it.
mircea_popescu: generally
these go like "darling,
this is maybe an assfuckin chair you don't object
to ?"
mircea_popescu: a de-alphabet'd item
that has no functioning power button is actually acceptable.