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KRS1: why tell you so i can be another douche
dub: pray tell what is your preffered *nix KRS1?
KRS1: lol sounds like someone didnt ever grow out of their training OS
dub: unless they are freebsd douches who will always remain so
Diablo-D3: if that happens, I think I may jump to alpine =/
Diablo-D3: although I dont like how they're discussing moving to systemd
dub: debian is good for when you want to actually use linux and not just be a douche
KRS1: glad to hear that..one less linux distro
KRS1: i never understood the need for ubuntu *cough debian* anyway..
Diablo-D3: people sometimes just refuse to learn
Diablo-D3: Im just going to stand back and let the whole thing collapse, really
Diablo-D3: yeah this is stupid
dub: that too
Diablo-D3: he kickbanned me then +q'ed me
dub: I've been banned from -mining for >6 months for suggesting their shipping schedule may not be accurate
iz: i parsed "bitfinsex" incorrectly when scanning this scrollback..
MJR_: huh, they are really ending ubuntu?
jurov: but whole coinbr is bigger that bitfinsex by a healthy margin
mircea_popescu: more like, unity failed so no money so fuck this
Diablo-D3: yeah, they wanna focus on being a hardware… whatever it is they think they're doing
Azelphur: I didn't hear this, this makes me sad, especially as I'm currently wearing my Ubuntu tshirt
Diablo-D3: Azelphur: I heard they're ending the ubuntu distro sometime in the next year or two
Azelphur: wow, I think Diablo-D3 is a shill for Ubuntu
Diablo-D3: wow, I think gmaxwell is a shill for bfl
MJR_: fixlib seems to be broken somehow
MJR_: its a grey area...investment pools have different regulations from something offered to the public or qualified invvestors
Bugpowder__: still keep the records
Bugpowder__: I don't think I can legally offer investments outside of that group
MJR_: he offered smickles a bet that was without escrow two years from now
Namworld: So there's no actual fund =P
Bugpowder__: with a NAV that stared at 1BTC
MJR_: the most annoying people in the world don't practice what they preach
jurov: yes, only if he could be baited to short... but no
Bugpowder__: I want my fund value to hit 2BTC/share
Bugpowder__: It's almost time for a ponzi chart update.
MJR_: srsly, for someone who hangs out in btc forums...he is constantly going on about how bad of an investment they are
MJR_: oh thank god
MJR_: tiberiusiv: i think we are all adults and know what we are doing
jborkl: you are the idiot
Bugpowder__: = move to treasurys, move to BTC
Bugpowder__: for example, flight to safety
jborkl: World economy over $70 trilliion
Bugpowder__: now these forces may be correlated to a macro sentiment shift
Bugpowder__: I think other forces are driving BTCUSD here
jurov: nice, so you've got two data point?
jurov: yes but you reason that the correlation is caused bby credit contractions and us treasury bonds
jborkl: oyu think - sp500 and bitcon price are related
Bugpowder__: tiberiusiv: the problem I have is that half of what you are saying makes perfect sense, but the other half is taking things quite a bit past what I consider reasonable
jurov: they will use all fiat and other assets to do so , not btc
jurov: well, whole notion that ppl will sell en masse btc to buy us tresury bonds seems utterly ridiculous
jborkl: how many Bitcoins do you have Jurov- seem to doing ok I think
jborkl: well, if I need my btcoins next week I will worry about it then
Bugpowder__: tiberiusiv: that was due to margin calls
Bugpowder__: all time high
gribble: There are currently 36649783 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9609689.18993 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0173 seconds
jborkl: I am not concerned with price movement now, I got in - if it goes back to 30 or 40 w/e
jurov: you imply they will
Bugpowder__: anyway. Nobody cares that cyprus just said 80% haircut over 100k now?
jurov: tiberiusic, so you really think ppl will start selling btc and buying US treasury bonds anytime???
Bugpowder__: it is an implausible reserve currency, that gains a little more traction each day.
Bugpowder__: I really think that BTC is not being driven by macro liquidity right now, but speculative fever and capital flight
jborkl: so, peoople are going to sell bitcoins to convert to $ to pay bills?
jborkl: can not rise, because interest rates would go up- then they can't pay the bills- already in a death spiral
Bugpowder__: gov will run up the debt until market forces them not to
Namworld: Who needs taxes when you can print money?
Namworld: People getting taxed, really.
Bugpowder__: currency of last resort is the dollar
Bugpowder__: not that they are AAA
Bugpowder__: the market says Treasuries are safe relative all the other shit out there
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.49000, Best ask: 78.49001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 78.49001, 24 hour volume: 61542.22530806, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.94045
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6940247.63172 based on data since last change | 7288653.72639 based on data for last three days
Diablo-D3: tiberiusiv refuses to read the constitution
ThickAsThieves: when i dont understand whats going on i have to turn him back on
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: well, I did too
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: you ignored tiberiusiv?
ThickAsThieves: worst thing about putting someone on ignore is when no one else does
Diablo-D3: they dont want to die
Bugpowder__: "21.19 Cyprus Finance Minister Michael Sarris has said uninsured Laika depositors could face an 80pc haircut, and might have to wait up to seven years for a payout."
Diablo-D3: the two largest bond rater agencies are afraid of lowering the US credit rating
Diablo-D3: the federal reserve does not have authorization from the US Federal government to print money
Diablo-D3: the 5 largest banks tell him to keep printing money illegally
Diablo-D3: tiberiusiv: no, if he doesn't do what hes told by the federal reserve board he is fired and replaced
Diablo-D3: (which also happen to be the 5 largest banks in the US)
Diablo-D3: bernake reports to the 5 largest banks in the world
jborkl: so, they don't give a shit
jborkl: they can't stop , or the bond traders don't get paid $20 mil for the year
jurov: "Credit contractions are attempts to minimize or limit the amount of credit that is currently available to consumers." <<< but it's NOT possible anymore
Diablo-D3: [05:48:50] <tiberiusiv> bernanke can only create dollars as long as the treasury market lets him.
Diablo-D3: you said this
TheSeven: this channel is tripping my spam protection bot's flooding threshold :P
Diablo-D3: [05:48:50] <tiberiusiv> bernanke can only create dollars as long as the treasury market lets him.
Diablo-D3: the federal reserve is NOT part of the treasury
Diablo-D3: he does NOT report to the treasury
Diablo-D3: no one cares about the dollar anymore
Diablo-D3: you're forgetting one thing
Diablo-D3: yeah but tiberiusiv
jurov: ELI5 what is the credit contraction you're esposuing
jborkl: add more 0'z to world debt
jurov: but how will credit contract? all these bad mortgages will magically get repaid?
jborkl: pointless argument, deflactionary currency compared to static supply