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Namworld: Most are just not going
to come in IRC...
Namworld: I'm one of
the
trader on MPEx. A few of
the 1000s calls were my
transactions.
mircea_popescu: actually, i wonder how many people are doing
the "sell 1k btc at mtgox, buy 1k worth of calls on MPEx" hedging
thing.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, large call buy put a
top in
the market.
Namworld: I've never
talked
to
them before receiving
the BTC or anything.
Namworld: I have funds loaned
to me.
The big people are not on bitcointalk nor on IRC.
Namworld: The large
traders are hardly standing around all day in IRC.
They don't even know about it.
Namworld: Brokers hardly represent a fraction of
trades
Namworld: It's people with
thousands of BTCs >.>
Namworld: They're around or on
the forum everywhere =/
Namworld: MPOE shares
trade an average of 700k daily...
Namworld: Well one last round of options
to grab and it's gone
Chaang-Noi: but
there was a cartoon of a lady burning usd when we jumped about $2
Namworld: Well
the asks/bids aren't for 1000 everywhere
Chaang-Noi: the grandma of
the cat in
tyhe looney
toons was
tossing money into a fire?
Namworld: options are usually in favor of
the bot
Namworld: If price makes a sudden drop, executing
them is always an option
to cut losses.
Chaang-Noi: meh 5000 btc seems worth
the risk here
Namworld: if price go down it could hurt
tho
Namworld: they're in
the money if average moves like
to 82-85 USD per BTC
mircea_popescu: where long is anything over a week, in
the sense
tuesday
to saturday is a week
Chaang-Noi: hmm, well if
they expect 100 soon very soon
then its a good deal
mircea_popescu: then again
traditionally options have been
trading like crazy past few days of each month.
Namworld: but
they have less of a premium
too
Namworld: mircea_popescu... I
think
there's demand for more calls
gribble: There are currently 21113.042 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1990189.832 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 16.7081 seconds
gribble: There are currently 2434.4015 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 205945.63073 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 8.3875 seconds
gribble: There are currently 3087.7011 bitcoins demanded at or over 78.72 USD, worth 247621.614442 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0070 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 82.51000, Best ask: 83.95000, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last
trade: 83.95000, 24 hour volume: 69655.64712248, 24 hour low: 75.07101, 24 hour high: 84.39000, 24 hour vwap: 78.82830
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6742223.56791 based on data since last change | 7150229.48926 based on data for last
three days
toffoo: I don't
think I've ever seen more
than about 6
TH hashing
toffoo: I
thought
the networking problems when
there was like 3-4
TH online
toffoo: where did he say
that?
mircea_popescu: somebody owes but doesn't pay
the assumption is
they're insolvent.
toffoo: but I figured I'd ask here before wading
thru it
mircea_popescu: this is not jumping
to conclusions.
this is
the correct assumption process in business.
toffoo: I
thought it might have been mentioned in
that monster forum
thread,
toffoo: well I hate
to jump
to uninformed conclusions
mircea_popescu: the only logical conclusion is
there's something wrong with it.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 83.90001, Best ask: 83.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last
trade: 83.95000, 24 hour volume: 69002.42552111, 24 hour low: 75.07009, 24 hour high: 84.39000, 24 hour vwap: 78.78080
mircea_popescu: originally
their gear was going
to be sent
to upstanding community members for review
Chaang-Noi: they dont need more funding so why do
they care?
toffoo: weird how
they haven't addressed
this pretty critical question
Chaang-Noi: tehy dont have batch 2 chips yet, but
they could ahve fucked 50% of batch one
mircea_popescu: toffoo
the worst case scenario is
that
their chips keep blowing up
toffoo: what happened
to ASICMINER's other 6TH? wasn't it supposed
to be 12
TH in
the first batch?
gribble: There are currently 19647.357 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 1851405.41114 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 4.9117 seconds
gribble: There are currently 20890.923 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1975762.01088 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds
Chaang-Noi: yeah 100 is almost a sure
thing now :/
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 83.74544, Best ask: 84.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45456, Last
trade: 84.20000, 24 hour volume: 67420.00585510, 24 hour low: 75.00000, 24 hour high: 83.00001, 24 hour vwap: 78.64965
unbalanced_: Like
the Cyprus "solution", Florida has something similar for foreigners who buy retirement homes: out-of-state owners of Florida property apparently pay higher property
taxes
than
their neighbours. Because
they can't vote.
mircea_popescu: past
this point it is irresponsible
to keep wealth in banks/fiat.
unbalanced_: Easy out for politicians. And
they wonder why suddenly normal citizens look at something like Bitcoin and say "Tell me more"
unbalanced_: Bugpowder: just caught up. 80% haircut for "rich" Cypriots (a minority
that won't march in
the streets) and foreigners (EU/Russian retirees who saved all
their lives but don't vote in Cyprus)... oh and Russian mafia, apparently
MJR_: yep...and i believe it was private...or was
that
the one before
jurov: well.. and
that one was horrible hack for decommissioned microcomputer
MJR_: so you could say
that in
the beginning
there was one
jurov: well, in
the beginning
there was One Unix....errr no...
there was actually sysv and bsd...
MJR_: if you are very good at linux...you don't have a job because you don't want one, or you are so annoying
that no one can possibly work with you...at least in
the US
dub: its simpler
to
think of it like
this: Some people use linux as a
tool
to accomplish
their work, som use it because
they are
tools who don't have a job.
MJR_: <dub> gentoo is
the slamming your cock and balls in a door of linux :)
MJR_: not saying
the other packages may not be off, but debian can run almost anything
jurov: oh, wasn't debian
that fucked
the keys? cuz
they know better
than upstream?
MJR_: or make
things so niche
that like one guy is like "this is perfect!"
MJR_: to me it seems like
they just reinvent
the wheel in a lot of
the others
jurov: debian is fine...but i have
to compile newer stuff on it all
the
time anyway
MJR_: but fuck yum and
that bullshit
MJR_: fuck...debian is
the purest linux
there really is
jurov: especially
the hardened variety
dub: gentoo is
the slamming your cock and balls in a door of linux
mircea_popescu: holy war = "apple is better
than windoze" "no slackware is better
than sarge"
jurov: so when bitcoin stops rising
there will be credit (among other
things) crunch
jurov: tiberius isn't war... although produced quite a flood
tho