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gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 87.00000, Best ask: 87.16999, Bid-ask spread: 0.16999, Last
trade: 87.00000, 24 hour volume: 76848.95819924, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.37796
jurov: cuz i'm registered entrepreneur (even VAT registered). so
they have a right
to look into my accts anytime
jurov: 1.
these gypsies look like indians 2.
they speak like indians 3. wtf are
they
then?
Diablo-D3: unless
they're some of
those really dark indians
Diablo-D3: dude, if
they're _chocolate_ I call
them african
jurov: Diablo-D3: how do you call
these chocolate people
then? roma?
Diablo-D3: another person who
thinks gypsy is a race and not a mythological creature
jurov: and in recent decades
they breed much faster
than "whites"... so slovakia will prolly become a gypsy country soon
Namworld: hmm... slight wall building up at 86 USD per BTC... price approaching all
time high again
jurov: i don't need move
thousands of btcs like
these poor silkroaders
jurov: for converting few hundred euros
to live off every while it has ample liquidity
jurov: and report
the earnigns
to be
taxed
jurov: my business is legit, i don't have a problem providing id
to bitcoin-central and cashing out at price consistently few euros above market
jurov: tiberiusiv i don't know why you care so much
to SR
Namworld: (Assuming
they don't
trust SR itself)
jurov: once
they want
to convert
thousands of btcs it's exactly
the same issue
Namworld: If
they want
to avoid linking a bank account...
Namworld: on
that one, I'd be with
tiberius... cashing out must be harder for dealers. Cash can come in fast. Cashing out without going
through an exchange can be hard.
bgupta: err..
there are like 20 fourms
jurov: ofc. if
they used fiat,
they'd have
the saem problem
to aluder it
Namworld: We don't have link off
the
top of our head for everything, silly you.
There's hundreds of BTC businesses.
jurov: tiberiusiv you're not
the only one who can say just google it, ya know
bgupta: what
they do with
the btc, I can only imagine.. ;)
bgupta: I know people are looking
to get btc without dealing with
the exchanges..
bgupta: of you are
talking darknet.. I
think a good side business would be a paper currency moneychanger.
jurov: tiberiusiv maybe. but swiss chocolate for btcs DOES sell quite well and
that matters.
Namworld: You can sell services of all sorts... does
the work
too
jurov: bgupta, if you want moar btc,don't exchange. earn
them
Namworld: I've pulled out great profit
trading instead however
Namworld: Every
time I put a few BTC on satoshidice, it's been a lost. Just for fun.
Namworld: I'm worried about people putting
their life savings/maxing credit into Bitcoins at current prices... right after such a steep rise.
bgupta: I don't have a lot of btc, so my
trades can easily be absorbed by
the market.
Namworld: SatoshiDice is a sure way
to lose
Namworld: Although only a few
thousands, nothing I wouldn't have been able
to repaid.
Namworld: I actually
took a credit
to buy BTC at 5 USD/BTC
bgupta: my goal is
to get more btc
than I had before.
bgupta: hey, I can't claim
to know what btc is gonna do… I have a very small position
that I plan
to keep in
the btc economy..
Bowjob: nah, giving
them attention is enough for
tiber
Namworld: I
thought feeding a
troll was getting angry/pissed, since it gives a
troll's statisfaction?
jurov: lol
tibby completely misunderstood me
Bowjob: i
think
tiber is just a
troll
jurov: i know what happens on coinbr and
that
they *do* use mpex
jurov: yes,
there are whales. but would
they use mpex for hedging or sdice for fun? never! (at least according
to our
tibby)
bgupta: they wouldn't have had
to sell off much
to act as market makers..
bgupta: I suspected
that as
the price went up
they would slowly move some of
their holdings into fiat,
to be able
to buy on any major pullbacks.. (That's what I would do if I was a creator of
this currency.)
bgupta: so I had a
theory back in
the day..
that
there are a large amount of coins held by a handful of folks who are acting as guardians of
the btc economy…
error4733: they are speculator in BTC land, at some point
they will cash out ! no dout
bgupta: I understand
that problem.
bgupta: tiberiusiv: depending on who
they are, would determine whether
that is a good
thing or a bad
thing.
bgupta: but also 95% of
the community aren't rushing for
the exits..
the
things
that really shook
the price back in
the day where
theives stealing wallets and dumping
them for fiat.
bgupta: it's for
the large $$$
transactions
that kill you.
bgupta: if you are patient.. you should be able
to move in and out, without such a spread no?
bgupta: well
that's only an issue due
to spreads, right?
bgupta: got it.. need
to
think if options could have any impact on
that… what about futures contracts? DO we have
those?
bgupta: I assumed
that by now shorting would have become a regular part of
the economy..
bgupta: really, I
thought mpex allowed
that for some reason?
Bowjob: bgupta
thats not how it works
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 85.96112, Best ask: 86.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03888, Last
trade: 86.00000, 24 hour volume: 76550.92089328, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.04172
bgupta: I'm
thinking
this run of publicity has a bit more legs in it.. however.. not a bad strategy… I sold most ages ago… but kept a few just in case of events like
this happening. (fiat woes) It's
the same reason I have some gold coins in my safety deposit box.
Chaang-Noi: tiberslav
tiverslav you made me laugh outlouad so hard everyone is looking at me like im nuts now
Bowjob: you will
thank me later
Bowjob: get in now, it hurts but you must accept
the fact
Bowjob: look dude you are
trading pennies for dollars
Chaang-Noi: tiberslav no one in
their right mind would
think you had more
than 2 btc
Bowjob: you can get run over by a bus
too
tomorrow
bgupta: ?? I can't find many merchants
that
take litecoin?
bgupta: well.. in
traditional markets selling short is selling.. and can stompt out any rallies, if a large enough position is
taken.
bgupta: The one question I have is if some large entity, gov't or financial, decided
to bet against bitcoin, how effective could
they be? I mean are
there enough available for loan
to really do a big short?
Chaang-Noi: only 21 million evar and everyone wants
them all
bgupta: It's a combination of
things creating a feedback loop…
Chaang-Noi: but who cares, people going
to just expect btc
to go way up everytime a bank fail so
that if okay with me
Chaang-Noi: bgupta w3ashington post did a good one
too
error4733: FINCEN effect, more
than Cyprus imo
saulimus: bgupta, I'm saying it's more probable
that
the price of bitcoin would've risen
the same way had
the cyprus situation not happened. articles like
that make it seem like it's
the only reason... because it's
the writer's job
to find interesting connections.
bgupta: saulimus: Are you saying
that eurowoes have no impact on btc/fiat ratios? (Or where you
talkign
to someone else?)
jurov: Namworld so BitVPS "tried but not allowed"
to list on mpex, orly ????
Bowjob: silver gets a smack in
the face
Bowjob: yes.. yes of course. even if bfl ships,
the backlog is insane
Bowjob: I just
told him cancel his BFL orders,
they seem scammy as fuck
Namworld: others
tried but were not allowed...
Bugpowder: you underestimate
the
tenacity of mp
Bugpowder: unless
this makes future bondholders skittish
Bugpowder: mpoe bondholders are going
to get slaughtered
Bowjob: i wonder whats
thew price in a week
Bugpowder: maybe
they are clearing
the pipe for everyone
Bugpowder: but
there was a BTC funding lag of 8 hours for me
Bowjob: someone dumped
to 84.50