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Bugpowder: If you would look at the history, people have been net losers in the options every month but august
Namworld: I've made losses there
Namworld: I've made a lot of put. I've been trying to go short since 30 USD/BTC
Bugpowder: Money is made by exploiting the inefficiencies of the market
Namworld: I've left my day job to have time to do all this trading.
Namworld: I had so many different assets in BTC, I was spending lots of time watching markets/refreshing pages. Income has grown.
jurov: sry, if that "learning" would make me such a zealot like you are... no thanks :)
Bugpowder: SPY options are too competitive
Namworld: NYSE is more competitive. Less spreads too.
jurov: in this case yes
Namworld: Also, I'm not sure I'm fit for the NYSE. BTC is easier, more movement, larger spread, no competition. It's a good training ground at least.
jurov: thanks to people like you that scream OMG ITS A SCAM
jurov: here you're usually alone, and for long time
Namworld: Otherwise IDK why people would lend BTC at thos rate, they usually require multiple % per week on BTC loans.
jurov: tiberiusiv, on NYSE if you figure out a strategy, there is 100ppl with same idea already
jurov: it's not a problem to at all have such earnings from btc options
Namworld: I suspect it's because I keep it at a fraction of my total worth and that I'm spread out among various exchanges and businesse types. Things could fail spectacularly and I'd still be able to repay all my debt. People like that.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.30101, Best ask: 86.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.43899, Last trade: 86.74000, 24 hour volume: 75041.74738403, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.66941
Namworld: I try not to have my toes dipped in most things for too long.
Namworld: Among other things. But the biggest earnings are from buying and flipping shares right back. There's some pretty big gaps in prices with illiquidity
Namworld: I keep my debt at a fraction of my outstanding loan so it can mitigate the risk of something failing.
Namworld: shares, a whole lot of them
MJR_: i thought you were going to start calling some of those bonds?
MJR_: Namworld: whats the interest? i think i already am lending to you through btc-bond
Namworld: MJR, loan to me, I have plenty of collateral and I'm borrowing =P
MJR_: ugh...i can't get sucked into your trollery today...sorry
MJR_: tiberiusiv: just another day, there won't be articles saying that
MJR_: tiberiusiv: you are so right, no one will remark on the fact that we hit triple digits
MJR_: but my long overnight position worked well, though i got stopped loss and didn't get the top
MJR_: i agree totally
pgp: my guess is that we will be in for some volatility today...
MJR_: pretty nice when you are trying to decide between 280% apy or 10% in one day trading
Namworld: I steer away from lending now... but you can loan to me.
MJR_: i decided to take my trading profits from yesterday and switch back to lending
MJR_: after the 32
MJR_: if not more...i just think that is the second biggest psychological barrier
MJR_: we are bumping into the ceiling hard though
MJR_: because one time during the flash crash i got filled on a bunch of calls
MJR_: i think the bot is aware of the mt gox price but not sure he uses it
MJR_: not sure, but i think so...i exercised from my cell phone as i was walking into a meeting
Bugpowder: I've never see the bot go lower
kakobrekla: mining profitability is too high
Bugpowder: but just sell back to the bot
MJR_: so i could exercise then
MJR_: figured that i had the vwap at 71 and it already dropped to 63
Bugpowder: due to time premium
Bugpowder: bot always pays more than exercise price
MJR_: is it a sure thing that we will not be seeing any dividends this month?
Bugpowder: why did you exercise though?
Bugpowder: MJR_: I have not followed it for long enough to be sure, but worked last week.
Bugpowder: Namworld: Had 10% of my nut in calls. they tripled. Sold... Rebought with the profits at the bottom of the weekend dip vwap. Best month ever.
MJR_: all the options are too expensive...
Bugpowder: Anyway.... watch the gox bids. I think it may be a leading indicator of corrections
Bugpowder: I sold off my calls for a 3x gain. Rebought at the bottom.
Bugpowder: before the crash last friday, total gox bids dropped from 8.1M to 6.1M
Bugpowder: the total gox bids keep going up
Bugpowder: I don't think there will be a correction before friday
Schadenfreude: Let's hope it gets through before the price correction#
Schadenfreude: Meh, I already sign with a BTC-adress to withdraw from CoinBR, it's a bit annoying
Chaang-Noi: gox be playing wiht all the stolen bitcoinica money
Bugpowder: although there may be an extra 10M USD in dark pools too
pgp: no automation for even the smallest withdrawls...
Bugpowder: There is definitely more than 50k sitting in dark pools on gox
gribble: There are currently 47942.779 bitcoins offered at or under 100000000.0 USD, worth 363654447.184 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0028 seconds
Bugpowder: I have never seen it this high.
Bugpowder: a proxy for the amount of money sittingn in gox accounts
gribble: There are currently 36640973 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9691361.22066 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0182 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.63544, Best ask: 85.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01456, Last trade: 85.65000, 24 hour volume: 77073.18838681, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.52340
Bowjob: no dude you're missing the point
Diablo-D3: you missed the point
Chaang-Noi: 95% of his army at the end was not macidonian
Chaang-Noi: but once he got to india he got an army of like all of india, with massive elehpants and shit
Diablo-D3: but its pretty much embedded into every white guy now: fear anyone from greece that has an army of macedonians behind them
Chaang-Noi: he just kept adding to his army as he beat other ones, sooner or later the other guys just sureendered
Chaang-Noi: tiberslave the 7th pope
Chaang-Noi: he did not really have an emipre... he just raped everything he came to until india... he also took over the empires in his way leaving most of the govt there, just killing the kinds and marrying the exwifes
Diablo-D3: I mean, fuck, he had an empire that spanned from greece to india
Chaang-Noi: alaxander is just like santa clause, tricks we play on history 101 students
Chaang-Noi: got to india, saw a line of elephants and was like... ummm, lets go home
Diablo-D3: hes more made up than anything else
Diablo-D3: and I forgot about alexander the great, btw
Chaang-Noi: rome did trade with china
Chaang-Noi: im a history dude way more than anything else:)
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: they have roman artifacts, but they're not sure if the artifacts alone made it
Chaang-Noi: not saying it did not happen but no one wrote about it, that survives
Chaang-Noi: or chinese to rome
Chaang-Noi: no roman in recorded history ever made it to china
Diablo-D3: one of the 12 kinds of chinese seems to be descended by a bunch of romans that followed the silk road the whole way dow
Chaang-Noi: d3 lol no, there is a group in afghan/packastian/india that came from alaxander the great when he came down 2500 eyars ago
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: hell, thats nothing new
Chaang-Noi: i was in india, in kashmire and they have people with blue eyes and light skin
bgupta: "The Romani are an ethnic group living mostly in Europe, who have been traced genetically to a group migrating from the northwestern Indian Subcontinent about 1,500 years ago."
jurov: if they don't resemble indians, then dunno
Chaang-Noi: D3 i just trollin:)
Diablo-D3: jurov: Ive never seen a "gypsy" that looks indian
jurov: roaming around eur since then
jurov: and they call themselves gysies or rome
jurov: they are some lowest indian caste that got expelled in 12th century.
Diablo-D3: but if they look like indians and speak an indian language, they might be, you know, indians
Diablo-D3: there is something like 5 major languages spoken on the indian subcontinent