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smickles: MJR_: this basically reminded me of the falkvinge all in
deadweasel: depends on the price, smickles
MJR_: no one would say the dollar is fraudulent because bernie madoff took dollars
MJR_: smickles: you could say the system doesn't have fraud, though fraudulent people use it
deadweasel: ah, that's right, thx
TomServo: Haha...a financial system without fraud. That's going great so far.
smickles: ^^ indicates top
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.20004, Best ask: 88.48899, Bid-ask spread: 0.28895, Last trade: 88.48899, 24 hour volume: 72845.53914176, 24 hour low: 77.13000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.05146
Ukto: over 250btc sold (half) within the first few minutes
ThickAsThieves: time to unleash hell on an innocent customer support person...
deadweasel: gotta go ya'll, thanks for all the help today with the options OIX! many thanks!
deadweasel: lol, i bought 5 at $67 in the dip, just because I hpe for BTCUSD at $1000
MJR_: think last time i dumped fiat was at 49
MJR_: but i have never payed close to 80 for a bitcoin
MJR_: this is all more accounting than anything else
deadweasel: but todays rate i paid 300$ for 1 year of VPN
deadweasel: me too, i hear ya. I paid for VPN with BTC.
MJR_: but i like to support btc based businesses
deadweasel: MJR_: you made money by not using BTC for that
MJR_: i registered 3 domains on namecheap (btcshares, btc-etf, bitcoin-etf) like 1 week before they announced accepting bitcoins
ThickAsThieves: but if call them, i will surely lose $40+ in life force from stress
deadweasel: they make it difficult on purpose. they implemented this during SOPA, when namecheap starteds stealing their customers
ThickAsThieves: now there's this package stuck to it
ThickAsThieves: so i gave up and decided to renew
ThickAsThieves: its virtually impossible to get this to transfet
deadweasel: why are you doing business with them? namecheap.com
KRS-1: what are the s.dice dividends like
deadweasel: awesome. would passthroughs continue to operate?
Bugpowder: we know who the shareholders are
deadweasel: is there a mechanism in place for SDICE to repay stockholders in the event MPEX somehow dies? (i'm not saying this is going to happen, I"m asking if there is a strategy)
Bugpowder: I think its a great value at .00399999
MJR_: and then reap some great dividend in april maybe
MJR_: as the price drops when others pursue strategy 1
MJR_: you give up, take your losses...throw the btc you have into a bond or something
MJR_: well...there are two choices now with sdice if you got in after the first ipo
Bugpowder: The pain of this loss will be healed by the call profits.
ThickAsThieves: or maybe i'll just help incite a crash on the PTs....
ThickAsThieves: my btc is all tied up waiting for mp now
Bugpowder: theres more where that came from
Bugpowder: put them back up
MJR_: ah well...i am thinking of doubling down
MJR_: ThickAsThieves: so it looks like no dividends this month?
MJR_: thanks ThickAsThieves
topace: (not that i've ever had a request, but good to know)
jurov: topace, contact me then or send email (support@coinbr.com has gpg key published proper)
ThickAsThieves: for this month
topace: if i get a request from someone to push from havelcok to coinbr, how would i go about that ?
MJR_: what is the link to see expected sdice dividends?
topace: to push to havelock yea, our normal "paste the mpex receipt" will work fine.
jurov: just on my side checks need to be done
jurov: i can use normal havelock interface, that;s not a problem
topace: jurov: well if you ever get a request to push or pull from havelock, lemme know, we can do it manually
jurov: so i can do the transfers manually on request
MJR_: if the prc goes to 100 the 75 calls are worth it
jurov: cause i don't trust the engine it's 100% reliable
jurov: well, such functionality is on hold at the moment
topace: it only works for mpex becuase mpex issues a gpg signed receipt that i can verify and ensure uniqueness on
topace: i'd have to talk to jurov about the implementation detaisl
topace: from havelock to coinbr? or from coinbr to havelock ?
MJR_: smickles: I am going to have to look at that...nyc should have had one a long time ago
ThickAsThieves: maybe havelock sdice will finally come down to market
MJR_: 97.60 ask on bitfloor...it could hit 100 there today
smickles: MJR_: I've heard the meshnet in seatle is pretty good
ThickAsThieves: redirect them to litecoin
MJR_: i really want to see an alternate mesh network spring up
MJR_: thats a quick way to get someone to notice
Bugpowder: spamhaus should redirect to whitehouse.gov
MJR_: unfortunately they are leveraging dns servers
MJR_: but it is targeted at spamhaus
MJR_: apparently cyberbunker is where the ddos is originating
ThickAsThieves: can we save the princess?
ThickAsThieves: we're approaching the first wall to get to 90
ThickAsThieves: chinese proverb say “If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. Peace is only found in the present.”
bgupta: actually it would have been low in that case..
bgupta: Hard to know that friedcat was going to choose this period of time to invest in another 150TH of gear. his guess prolly would have been better had they not.
ThickAsThieves: at this point i'm not sure
ThickAsThieves: this is the nature of guesses
dub: what the fuck is with this esnding satoshis idiocy
KRS-1: I heard June today myself.
ThickAsThieves: i suspect there really is a big problem with their system
bgupta: closer to June than now.
bgupta: err by some time in June
bgupta: I'm expecting them to ship by June.
ThickAsThieves: and then they go back to drawing board
ThickAsThieves: and they are just not admitting yet
KRS-1: I have a preorder as a money transfer request to BFL's bank..looks like it has a preorder number on it, but never sent the transfer..they say it will hold my position though...I wonder.
ThickAsThieves: for example, what if their chip design simply doesnt work
bgupta: they wouldn't still be taking orders.. if it was 0..
bgupta: (Obviously if they ship it will take a long time to clear backlog)
bgupta: want to know how many TH we are looking at if they ever ship.
bgupta: in theory I mean… IE Full prod run is something like 70k+ chips.
bgupta: and certainly less risky than leverage plays.
bgupta: I'll admit that AM probably has from a strict value investment pov prolly gotten ahead of itself.. but it's a better deal than a) owning fiat, b) building/ordering rigs now, c) other mining stocks.
bgupta: The problem as I see it is that if someone wants to get in on btc without too much work, they have three choices 1) buy btc 2) buy mining gear 3) buy mining stocks. As long as AM is leading the metrics, it will carry a premium and be a go to investment, since modern mining gear that will last more than a month or so, can't really be easily had.
MJR_: just trying to get best price
bgupta: well.. not sure how far shorting would go.. I don't believe anyone owns these shares on margin, so guessing not too many weak hands.
jurov: you can in turn lend it to mp :)
MJR_: hope the price falls, i'd love to scoop up more asicminer
bgupta: err third batch of 150TH.
bgupta: ah nvm misread.. the 2nd batch is still 50TH, but he is putting together a 3rd batch of 200TH.