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bgupta: btc trades like a commodity/currency/equity
Chaang-Noi: bgupta in thailand it is
Chaang-Noi: we could use gram or tonne i guess
Chaang-Noi: gold is 1.6k a troy oz
bgupta: Don't think it will ever get there..
bgupta: WEll, if one can buy a house with 1BTC, I'd imagine it would be an unwieldy unit of transaction.
bgupta: so any quesses when we are gonna switch to talking in mBTC?
Chaang-Noi: i dont think we will hit 100 before i have to go out in a few hours
gribble: There are currently 3068.6381 bitcoins offered at or under 96.0 USD, worth 293644.877472 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Chaang-Noi: we will correct sooner or later, we are correcting up now, we were way undervalued for so long, we will shoot too high and go back down, level and shooot up again
bgupta: you really need 10000+ btc today to have any say tomorrow, and bear in mind at some point a continuing major rise of the btc value versus fiat (which is not a given) would have to have an impact of the buying power of the fiat currencies.
toffoo: if we're fast with this "bitcoin crosses $1bn" headline thru the tech news cycle before the weekend we could blow thru $100 no problemo
Bowjob: id get a diminishing return, but if the value of btc goes up, i'll be living comfortably
Bowjob: starting with 1 avalon, then gen 2, ect
Bowjob: if I can, id try to set up a mining ops
Chaang-Noi: me to, but not in the usa (or canada)
Chaang-Noi: yeah toffoo
toffoo: not until you sell them right?
Bowjob: theres taxes too i guess
Chaang-Noi: hell my uncle has a car worth that... he is not a king
Bowjob: btc can go way more than 10k
Chaang-Noi: oh, well 20 btc at $10,000 each is only half a house in the usa...
Bowjob: we're pretty much the new banking overlords
Chaang-Noi: id say 95% of this chan
Bowjob: in relation to the rest of the world
Bowjob: well how many users have more than 100 BTC
Chaang-Noi: how is that toffoo?
toffoo: but thru dumb luck or being lucky dumb i wound up having more than i ordinarily would have
Chaang-Noi: lol, well me too
toffoo: prolly not as large as i'd like to
Chaang-Noi: do you hold a large amount toffoo?
Chaang-Noi: yeah i think so too
toffoo: fellow AM shareholders, I have a feeling we'll be reuniting on yachts together some day
toffoo: prolly won't have any trouble selling a few for RMB in this market right now either
Chaang-Noi: anyone going to celebrate 100? or the fact we went over 1billion market cap?
Chaang-Noi: atleast he has pil;es of btc now to get shit done
Chaang-Noi: toffoo then it is what i thought, if ture, they are remodeling the new data center
pigeons: wow i have everyone in that thread ignored
pigeons: bgupta: i think the innovation is the "rippling" of these ious across trust paths,
bgupta: So would it be fair to say that Ripple is like the US checking system, but instead of banks and the government backing it, it is all WoT based?
gribble: There are currently 11188.557 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 1095083.52263 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
Chaang-Noi: mp ithe 200 th should arive in 3 months, will take the same time as the first two orders
Bowjob: if that shit turned out to be real, i'd pay hungary a visit
Bowjob: i was disappointed with PrimeASic too
Chaang-Noi: toffoo thanks for the e-mail, let me know what he says if he does :/
mircea_popescu: BTW, I am not an electrical engineer so give me a break on that. I am CEO."
mircea_popescu: "We have to keep our Intellectual Property protected and abide by NDA we have signed with chip manufactures so please understand that there are some things that I can't divulge, but I will try my best to answer any questions that you may have.
Bowjob: its on the mining forum lol
pigeons: bgupta: yes but when bitcoin people currently talk about ripple they presently usually mean jed's opencoin inc implementation at ripple.com
Chaang-Noi: bowjob that was ages ago and lol no
Bowjob: is this shit for real
pigeons: mircea_popescu: they have strategy and capital, wether the strategy is any good remains to be seen
pigeons: jed mcaleb who started mtgox started a company to buy ripple from ryan
pigeons: bgupta: ryan fugger started the ripple concept in 2006 i think
pigeons: main reason is client software is buggy beta, trust of potential users is low so far, server software is in flux, protocol changes so no server source yet except for partners so no decentralization yet
mircea_popescu: why isn't this thing empowering the otc to take over!
mircea_popescu: there's some strength in the otc market, and they're doing things mostly pen on paper.
pigeons: mircea_popescu: oh i see you were asking why ripple's decentralized trading hasnt replaced centralised exchanges like mtgox
bgupta: well not your twitter post but the total value.
mircea_popescu: i drank so much champagne this month ;/
bgupta: yeah, I saw that..
mircea_popescu: bgupta https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/317213908769325056 check that
pigeons: mircea_popescu: you cant know from looking at a ripple address that the btc or fiat balances are markers for funds at the liquidity pools behind the exchanges, or if they are worthless ious unless you are in the pools
mircea_popescu: it's not exactly an altcoin tho. it's a sort of - as best i can determine - blockchain-y iou management system
bgupta: something to pay attention to?
mircea_popescu: well me either, but i think he does.
bgupta: haven't followed ripple too closely yet..
pigeons: cause its beta and there are bugs but it is
mircea_popescu: NEVER a better opportunity could have come their way, this is what ripple is for right ? why's it not doing it!
mircea_popescu: pigeons by the way, i wish to know why isn't ripple whipping the otc btc/usd traders into a huge behemoth of fury that wrests currency exchange from mtgox ?
pigeons: the only thing more boring than listening to how great mp is, is listening to how bad he is
pigeons: yeah i think we've all heard that tiberiusiv
pigeons: mircea_popescu: talking to tiberiusiv, maybe you have him on ignore, i was considering it
bgupta: tiberiusiv: sigh.. wtf are you talking about.. you just jumped into a convo..
bgupta: well technically I don't think burnside deals in USD? Why would he have to?
bgupta: Belize is on of those "Offshore Banking" countries that doesn't really deal well with the US
bgupta: Assuming he did his homework there.
Namworld: Ah yes, burnside doesn't touch fiat.
Namworld: yeah, he took another approach. Ukto is in the USA tho I believe.
mircea_popescu: Namworld you're confusing things tho. burnside isn't touching fiat afaik.
Namworld: Ask Ukto or Burnside, both in the USA
bgupta: I'm concerned about an USA based btc business that exchanges fiat for btc..
Namworld: And according to lawyers that were consulted, there's not much yet...
bgupta: "ZigGap is made up of a team of dedicated Bitcoin service professionals located in the eastern United States."
mircea_popescu: bgupta everyone with the notable exception of bitcoin-central is.
bgupta: Aren't they basically at risk of being shut down for failing to register as a financial institution?
mircea_popescu: afaik aethero's thing neh ?
bgupta: not as bad though as ziggap...
Namworld: Bitfunder has an asset bot in #bitfunder now. I hope to see it added to assbot soon
Namworld: is the word
Bowjob: that mpex buttpen pic would show up as one of the most powerful examples of btc
bgupta: err.. google checkout? they don't think that once google gets wind of it they won't just shut it down
mircea_popescu: kinda sucks being from the uk for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: i'll go down in history as "the only romanian that ever..."
Bowjob: u will be known as hosting the biggest btc exchange
mircea_popescu: toffoo i guess pretty much everything we do in bitcoin these early days will become revered a century later.
mircea_popescu: no, this would have been mickey m,ouse work for my neighbour, who never went to college
bgupta: I understand.. this would have been mickey mouse work, for the big silicon companies.
mircea_popescu: say they actually need 20. 20kw is NOT a big deal.
mircea_popescu: the total specified power draw is something like 10kw