log☇︎
935700+ entries in 0.604s
mircea_popescu: look at people like tiberiusiv, ranting about how bad the world is. there's about one million towns on the globe nobody's heard of
mircea_popescu: they don;'t dop that, either.
ThickAsThieves: i think the fantasy isnt the same as that tho
mircea_popescu: and in general, plenty of places to go nobody's going
mircea_popescu: to tokyo after the tsunami
Namworld: Well after a month of good trades, it's time for me to go. I'll be retiring for the weekend to visit family as well as friends.
mircea_popescu: if they indeed wanted to do it tho, they'd have went to haiti after the quake
ThickAsThieves: people do love the fantasy of living in post-apocalyptic situations
mircea_popescu: and a big red button does that well.
mircea_popescu: i mean... this makes for good action flicks, because a rule of storytelling is to concentrate attention
mircea_popescu: i don't think how it really works tho.
ThickAsThieves: it's an interesting notion if you think of bitcoin as an ultimate anarchistic plot to reset the economy
mircea_popescu: and then going nya nya. dude... you're STILL on the conveyor belt
mircea_popescu: it's like the chickens on the conveyor belt telling the chickens attempting to escape that "they can't"
ThickAsThieves: just bring it home to my first statement
mircea_popescu: ya but who cares about that ?
ThickAsThieves: and fiat holders saying nya nya told you so
mircea_popescu: on the net this'll make for some sexually satisfied women and a general slowdown of economic activity.
mircea_popescu: people like me, who are currently productively employed, would jsut go fuck this and retire to private life
mircea_popescu: obviously if you stick to valuing things in bitcoin they'll increase apparently, but only because bitcoin itself is going down
mircea_popescu: conversely, fiat has absolutely no value. consequently, as bitcoin's shortcomings bercome apparent there's nothing pushing the price up.
mircea_popescu: see, thing is : bitcoin's value was pretty huge compared to fiat (all fiat together)
ThickAsThieves: what would happen if bitcoin really became a MAJOR safe haven for money in a short time, and then somehow, all bitcoins disappeared and/or the blockchain became irreparablely corrupted? I guess fiat would skyrocket in value?
mircea_popescu: i thought it was pretty much a sensible move, back then
ThickAsThieves: shit certainly seems to hitting the fan though
ThickAsThieves: i thought it was a neat idea, but didnt really follow the details at all
ThickAsThieves: were you against the euro/zone concept?
ThickAsThieves: a little over my head, out of my country, but are they simply saying "fyi, your money ain't really safe"
Namworld: ok... this whole thing is getting ridiculous...
mircea_popescu: ules of the FSA.’
mircea_popescu: Any money held for you in an account with Santander UK plc will be held in its capacity as a bank and not as a trustee. In accordance with FSA requirements we areobliged to notify you that the client money rules on money do notapply to a Banking Consolidation Directive (BCD) in relation to deposits within the meaning of the BCD held by that institution. As a result, the money will not be held within the client money r
mircea_popescu: this is pretty interesting, the santander stuff.
Chaang-Noi: bought my wife a nice blue saphire ring cuz btc went ovber the 1 billion mark yesterday:)
Chaang-Noi: but even so, at the right price, its good
Chaang-Noi: i thought i was buying into a company
Chaang-Noi: hmmm i forget they are bonds
toffoo: looking to get long hash bonds right before the difficulty spike?!?
toffoo: not traded at the moment, like gigavps .. old GLBSE holdover
Chaang-Noi: toffoo where are they traded if not butfunder?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.96000, Best ask: 91.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54000, Last trade: 90.96000, 24 hour volume: 158643.07292808, 24 hour low: 75.00111, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 87.24783
Chaang-Noi: not old, i mean one of the first guys who ordered like a year ago
Chaang-Noi: its an old guy who needs cash now so has to sell it
Chaang-Noi: im buying the olny slot for sale, sorry man
Chaang-Noi: yeah, im going to buy but im not going all in :)
Chaang-Noi: think the average will be up 1000% or less in the next 10 months?
arij: the diff is going to go up fast i think
Chaang-Noi: they have like the 15th order and its a big one
arij: i think
arij: its either 30gh/s or 60gh/s then
Chaang-Noi: like first bfl to ship
Chaang-Noi: at 10x that difficutly it would take 10 months
Chaang-Noi: my minds is all over the place, doingto much at one time
Chaang-Noi: or is ti $10,000 ?>
Chaang-Noi: so that is like 1000 then for 46 mhs
Chaang-Noi: gave my wife 370 btc today, will be fun to see how she does with them
ThickAsThieves: this is when the buying started again the past few days
Chaang-Noi: yeah, that sell off did no harm
taub: well almost it snapped back to 92 after the big downmove
arij: at this point
Chaang-Noi: that is if they ever ship:)
arij: ill be in the first batch
arij: way to crush my dreams
Chaang-Noi: andi heard the bfl staff is taking 105 of first batch to mine with, dont have a cource
Chaang-Noi: should have been 6k but they derped and made it 5k
Chaang-Noi: i might be wrong but i understood it to be 5k in the first batch
Chaang-Noi: that might be true, but first batch is 5k
arij: well there is that 1/3 thing to
Chaang-Noi: iknow a guy who ordered 4 of the big ass ones in the first 100 orders
Chaang-Noi: i only expect 250 orders to get filled
Chaang-Noi: i kinda expect only under #2000 to get filled, if that
ThickAsThieves: i think more like 8
arij: i thought it was 8
Chaang-Noi: it takes like 20 chips to make the 60 ghs thing
arij: im in that first batch :D
Chaang-Noi: 5k chips in the first batch is what i thought
arij: wait they have 500 chips on hand or 5000 chips
Chaang-Noi: they dont want to share bad news?
ThickAsThieves: why are these fucking companies so horrible at communications
Chaang-Noi: yeah, im not sure when they will get them, but they only ahve 5k now
Chaang-Noi: they dont have the 5000 now, that was the order size
Chaang-Noi: they have to then make a new run
Chaang-Noi: that is all of them
Chaang-Noi: well maybe they can, but they will run out of chips before long
Chaang-Noi: you know they only have 500 chips right?
ThickAsThieves: they claim they can ship 400 "units" a day
Chaang-Noi: mine was 25 THs ish
Chaang-Noi: how did you get that number???
Chaang-Noi: TAT that is not how my maths worked out :/
ThickAsThieves: so maybe say 6800 untis shipped in april, which we'll shave it down to 5000 to subract for BFL derpness
Chaang-Noi: oh so you mightn ot get in the first batch then
arij: and im sure some of those orders in between are expired
Chaang-Noi: what was the first asic order?
Chaang-Noi: arji youin the first few orders?
arij: some one did it on the forums.. not sure where that post is though
ThickAsThieves: so whats the napkin math for nethash gained
arij: like i said earlier im cool with it all, ill be happy just to get my asic soon
arij: those btc i spent though...
ThickAsThieves: you GET it earlier too ;)
arij: i would expect some compensation though.. if everyone else gets 60w units and i get sent a 195w unit because i ordered early :/
arij: possibly in the future