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MJR_III: avalon got it, they understood what it takes to get the product to market
MJR_III: BFL keeps saying, oh tomorrow
error4733: still before than BFL imo :)
MJR_III: Yifu wrote something about that but I can't find the link
MJR_III: and i THINK, but i may be completely wrong, that may 15th is target delivery date for batch 3
MJR_III: last i saw they pushed back
MJR_III: batch 2 was half the size
MJR_III: and that is a total of 44 TH
MJR_III: pgp: i don't think it would be that much
pgp: say that batch 1 and 2 ws a total of 60 TH - 100% of current network hash rate
MJR_III: 44 TH
MJR_III: you could order the 88gh version
MJR_III: i think batch 3 was 600 units at 66gh each
pgp: how many TH in batch 3?
MJR_III: think they sold out batch 3 in under an hour...thats 600 x 80 btc AT LEAST for a total of 24000 btc
pgp: ebay list many of them at 1000% of MSRP
pgp: those pickaxes have gone up in value ALOT since they wre pre-ordered...
MJR_III: the bitbet BFL decision will be fun to watch
MJR_III: yep and i think avalon is the clear winner so far
MJR_III: to all those people saying btc isn't backed by anything...it's backed by drama
mircea_popescu: that avalon thing...
mircea_popescu: of all the stupid bs forum drama
topace: ipment on hold. However, if you'd rather have the units right now at an increased power usage, we will ship you as many units as required to get you to the hashrate your purchased, if we end up having to scale back any given class of unit to fit within the power envelope of the current board design.
topace: We've been tracking down a power issue these last few days and have it isolated to a few key systems. In the interest of time, we are planning on potentially scaling back units hashing speed as required to accommodate the extra power and shipping multiple units to those that want their units right now. If would would prefer to wait for a unit after we've made some changes to the systems that need a bit of tweaking, we will be happy to put your sh
Ukto: does this mean bfl will putoff releasing the asics until they get power under control ?
pgp: they subcontracted to boeing...
topace: heh so bfl now has a working asic, but its using too much power
deadweasel: kakobrekla: it's like daytime television.
jcpham: so much text and screenshots
kakobrekla: well this is fun https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160527.0;topicseen
bugpowderr: when funds clear it will automatically hit the book
bugpowderr: for example, if you are waiting for funds to clear, but you want to go to sleep, you can place the order and go to sleep
bugpowderr: They will appear on the book if you add additional funds
bugpowderr: you can place additional orders, but they will be listed as 'insufficient funds' and will not show on the book.
bugpowderr: pgp all orders that display in the book are fully funded
smickles: bugpowderr seems to think it isnt
pgp: so, concievable much of the order book dept could be totally bogus
smickles: pgp: bugpowderr seems to know more about it, but basically, they let you do it
pgp: what's the deal with gox allowing you to put in orders that exceed your balance?
topace: more than 1% of the toal
topace: well 10% of the shares that are actually trading on mpex
topace: not bad for havelock having 10% of the shares
pgp: based on the idea that asic devices will eventually start shipping, does anyone have an estimate on how much extra hashing power is likely to come online within the next few months?
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
bugpowderr: i wanna know the summed bids
smickles: i plan to use my 'return' on my car loan
bugpowderr: Yah, people think "free money!" Let's roll the dice
smickles: MJR_III: people tend to spend tax returns on stupid shit, and i'm sure there are plenty of people who consider bitcoins stupid shit
mircea_popescu: bugpowderr tell him. i have.
jborkl: MJR_III : I was wrong about the diff retarget- my bad
MJR_III: i don't really like the bitcointalk forums, so i am glad you guys are here to tell me the best articles
ThickAsThieves: I have Deprived my coinbr referall as a tip, and invited him here
MJR_III: figured that's what you meant
MJR_III: whats with all the ddos'ing lately
kakobrekla: but it opens to me
MJR_III: smickles: do you think that tax returns will inject more cash into the btc economy
DeaDTerra1: Didn't expect this volume :P, I guess it's the combination of everyone that wants in before the holidays and that they just got their salaries
mircea_popescu: that's a nice way to put it
mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately, without proper funding and with limited manpower running a project of this magnitude has proven to be very difficult. Recently, these problems caused for a group of users trouble and losses of funds. Ultimately, that's why we decided to shut down BitMarket.eu and stopped trading."
DeaDTerra1: No they do not, but Swedish banks do and people just got their salary. The wire was sent yesterday so I expect it to reach Mtgod on monday/tuesday.
DeaDTerra1: In our normal buisiness model this is not needed and also we do not have Bitcoins as our float but USD/SEK
sturles: DeaDTerra1: If you sent to the bank in Japan, they don't have any Easter holidays there.
DeaDTerra1: Yea, I would love to have a connect to future/option market
MJR_III: short term commercial paper is so far an emerging market
kakobrekla: is this bitmarket.eu rehash
DeaDTerra1: then I am thinking of just longing on bitfinex to hedge the risk and borrow BTC
DeaDTerra1: I will become that desperate tomorrow :P
DeaDTerra1: We have about 70k $ wire transfer on it's way to MtGox but due to bank holiday and easter it will not hit mtgox until after this weekend
DeaDTerra1: well, we have Fiat tons of it, just not on mtgox :)
MJR_III: well they have fiat waiting on the wire
DeaDTerra1: It would except we kind of do not want the exchange risk of borrowing BTC
DeaDTerra1: nope, we get people who want to buy Bitcoins in Sweden, and we do not have float to buy bitcoins and send them out to the customers :9
MJR_III: wouldn't it make sense to borrow btc then?
mircea_popescu: ZedsterX tux announced it 12 hours ago
DeaDTerra1: We have sent out all our bitcoins to customers
mircea_popescu: maybe putting a btc ask for a slightly above mkt price may work naturally to attract fiat ?
DeaDTerra1: We are willing to offer 0.5-1% for a loan from today to Monday/Tuesday when the wire hits out MtGox account.
smickles: MJR_III: i'm not sure how jurisdiction would play out, so i default to where I am
MJR_III: smickles: how is it in the jurisdiction of the state?
smickles: or an interest rate limit if the rate is in a contract
smickles: oh, this state doesn't have an amount limit
DeaDTerra1: Let me check with the CEO ^^
DeaDTerra1: I can take lower amounts, as I said. We are zeroed :P I am quite desperate for any amount I can get my hands on. btcx will repay it on Monday/Tuesday when our wire hits MtGox
smickles: I think 10k is above my legal limit
DeaDTerra1: we need to stack up some float as we are already zeroed and the weekend just started
DeaDTerra1: 10k$ ish, btcx.se (where I work) are totally out of float, people just got their salaries and it's now a four day holiday in Sweden...
DeaDTerra1: Looking to borrow fiat on MtGox or Bitstamp!
smickles: i don't think poverty = corruption
smickles: tiberiusiv: how come that video has a bunch of comments saying that it's not like that anymore?
smickles: tiberiusiv: that video looks decades old, is it still like that?
smickles: coming from a country where our dear leader has a public assasination list, corruption doesn't sound all that bad
MJR_III: anyways, i think if you could hash 2.5x as fast...you would be making a ton of money
smickles: at the cost of waging war everywhere
jcpham: you'll have to trust me
jcpham: sorry no citations for sources, though
jcpham: i read about it in this channel recently
jcpham: mircea_popescu did you know romania si the most corrupt place in europe
smickles: tiberiusiv: our current president is from one of the most corrupt places in 'merica
smickles: MJR_III: if you notice, i granted him the fact that mircea_popescu is a fraud and asked him what i should do about it
MJR_III: so i think that at 6hz and above...you have to worry about the small times where the heat is still on the chip before the water can suck it up