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Apocalyptic: <benkay> but i wouldn'
t build a bridge out of Al. // some people did
benkay: but i wouldn'
t build a bridge out of Al.
benkay: don'
t be talkin to me about 4140 vs 1018
benkay: you don'
t even build bridges
jurov: hm why bitcointa.lk won'
t show post dates?
mircea_popescu: eh, the guy made headlines plenty of time, and i don'
t recall that bs
fluffypony: "So the 5000+ BTC we crowdfunded to make a chip - turns out it wasn'
t enough to make a chip. Just enough to pay a nice salary for Ken and all his family for a few years. I'll be dumping my shares at whatever price I can get. Time to move on."
mircea_popescu: and i wouldn'
t worry too much for the entire haxxorz bullshit. we're pretty much in place by now, if it ever becomes pol;itically expedient or economically productive to do so, the entire obsolete fiat industry can be fully interdicted with little cost and little effort.
bounce: oh I dunno. scanned it and didn'
t see much of anything except all the well-known things they don'
t like summed up. now I read the whole thing and indeed, little substance. though I suppose that there's still plenty people out there that haven'
t put the should-be-obvious things together.
mircea_popescu: bounce but srsly, what don'
t you like about the sec release ?
fluffypony: bounce: I didn'
t find it overly dramatic or fud? I think it would be better for investors to apply a bit of common sense than get caught up in hype
bounce: hard to see how this news release is much beyond fud. apparently the girl "investigating", didn'
t do much of the sort.
HeySteve: assbot doesn'
t recognise altgribble :)
mircea_popescu: i'm an elitist because i've had the good chance to observe first hand what works and what doesn'
t and how and why.
decimation: you know the funny thing is that the USSR had much official propaganda w.r.
t. egalitarianism
decimation: especially when he knows the other side won'
t respond in public, by definition
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the more apocalyptic scenario : there's no secret currently kept by the nsa that we don'
t already know.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the message couldn'
t be louder or clearer : the nsa is being retired.
decimation: I guess if they won'
t work as free employees they can always "have problems" and then work as zeks
decimation: the problem with Roth plans: "I am altering the deal, pray I don'
t alter it further..."
mircea_popescu: wouldn'
t those have been great if the farmers didn'
t have to pour 100% of the milk poured,
decimation: I guess the gov'
t makes you pay one way or the other.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, the other market participants do want it. the corp tho doesn;
t.
decimation: most USian's don'
t have any choice on what to buy
mircea_popescu: decimation for instance, buffett refused small investors precisely for this reason. fuck you, we don'
t want your stupid.
mircea_popescu: the funny part being that this hft thing is a solved problem, mpex doesn'
t have it.
mircea_popescu: they have just pushed the stock price up fraudulently, and don'
t want to be raped for it.
artifexd: Ok. I'll chalk it up to you making a typo and that the rules didn'
t change.
artifexd: Being rated by someone in assbots l2 doesn'
t do anything useful for self voicing though, right?
moiety: theres a rogue dot in there isn'
t there
BingoBoingo: To where You can'
t trade a single doge for a satoshi
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> wasn'
t there a kick up recently about Havelock not actually being registered in Panama? << yes.
pankkake: their finances aren'
t very transparent right now :/
davout: see, if marketing was about communicating precise and factual information, then it wouldn'
t be marketing anymore
davout: if you're a retard that doesn'
t have a clue you'll take it at face value, if you know what the reactor pattern is and how evented IO is nice you'll read between the lines
fluffypony: wasn'
t there a kick up recently about Havelock not actually being registered in Panama?
Mats_cd03: you can'
t train people to operate effectively on low sleep, infanteers have been trying for millennia
fluffypony: and I didn'
t like having 2-3 cups of coffee at 2pm
Mats_cd03: i like it but it doesn'
t help me focus
Azelphur: BCB: I had one for a while, but I don'
t have anything high resolution enough to see detail :p
Azelphur: BCB: great, nice and warm (But air conditioning), sunshine and beach babes, can'
t complain.
joecool: and linux couldn'
t make up its mind on what wireless stack to adopt (there were like 6 or 7)
mircea_popescu: canada trying hard to make sure it won'
t exist in the future huh.
nubbins`: we won'
t be doing a huge amount of cutting, so a ~$1k manual cutter is more sensible than a $6-10k electric
Apocalyptic: yw, also there was some periods of downtime, so don'
t expect an exhaustive log
mircea_popescu: pigeons if you mostly don'
t read it you can pretend like it's not paywalled.
Apocalyptic: It hasn'
t been logging for very long though
thestringpuller: ;;later tell nubbins` need to talk more about invoices etc. etc. been lazy recently gimme a ping when you aren'
t busy
nanotube: haha well, doesn'
t sound like a great reason :P. but yea anyone's welcome to join -otc-ratings and log.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: but then we're back to what davout said, solving a problem that doesn'
t exist
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: well atm the db is 3mb, so I don'
t see it growing massively - double-ish that size if every single rating was updated:-P
HeySteve: the problem is imposing costs means you have to set costs, meaning you can'
t avoid (dis)incentivisation
davout: fluffypony: also you're trying to solve a problem that doesn'
t exist
nanotube: well it's not a bad idea generally speaking, just isn'
t how it happens presently. :)
Apocalyptic: "New York - La banque américaine JPMorgan Chase est en train de fermer les comptes bancaires d'actuels et d'anciens dirigeants hauts placés non-américains et de diplomates, a-
t-on appris mardi auprès d'une source proche du dossier"
fluffypony: nanotube: ok then why not shift historical ratings into an archived rating table? that way the main ratings table doesn'
t bloat, but the historical data is still around
nanotube: well, i have logs... but i didn'
t think it would be useful to bloat the db with historical crud.
fluffypony: nanotube: why don'
t you insert ratings into the table instead of updating them, and then just use a subquery to group by rated_user_id / rater_user_id when getting data?
HeySteve: :D well here we don'
t quite agree, but yes it's a good debate to have
mircea_popescu: HeySteve the only reason i comment is because you seemed to want to know why i wouldn'
t use it.
HeySteve: I agree it has great application to politics, yet I still don'
t see why incentivising people to join the WoT is bad
mircea_popescu: nobody;'s fault the rest of the bipedals aren'
t human.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: yeah but it hasn'
t been purely for -otc since gribble first appeared on a non -otc channel
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is like saying women that don'
t have sex are part of the dating market, just not my elitist subsection of it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so then... they aren'
t part of the economy. lol
mircea_popescu: <davout> ThickAsThieves: i wonder if that's really a good idea << i don'
t think it is.
HeySteve: <+fluffypony> an alias is irrelevant unless it links to an identity <- I disagree. someone doesn'
t have to know your real name to trade with you based on ratings
davout: ThickAsThieves: if i wanted to argue the opposite i'd say criminals that aren'
t in the wot weren'
t part of the economy in the first place, so that would be a non-issue
ThickAsThieves: not that this is a 'problem' but i'd also like to see a way to rate entities which haven'
t registered in the WoT yet
ThickAsThieves: <+HeySteve> right, I get it. I am trying to finetune the WoT system without fixing what ain'
t broke. this is a definite point of improvement /// you are fixing it by making something, or fixing your brain?