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smickles: that's like when they were indexing people's root pw a while ago, but worse
Scrat: too many buzzwords were thrown around
ThickAsThieves: they had the guy from Expensify defending and some trader thug attacking
mircea_popescu: this thread is kinda funnay.
benkay: i otoh probably thank people too much
Bugpowder: it will look bad when these logs are read by the historians of bitcoin's formative years
smickles: (wow, that might look bad to someone who didn't see some of my conversations with tiberiusiv)
dub: dump all teh scams
DeaDTerra: WTS G.SDICE,GSDPT,G.MPOE,G.BBET, BTCQuick and TU.Silver shares!
mircea_popescu: and pretty much the only reason having miners chinese rather than american is good news.
dub: although deepbutt is no longer a threat
mircea_popescu: that is currently the main avenue of govt attacking bitcoin
dub: deepbutt and guild have also helped luke with his shit or indicated willingness to do so in the past
pgp: I understand, of course - just a thought experiment...
dub: and yet eligius has over a Th
smickles: i think a lot of us would
mircea_popescu: that's such a huge breach of bitcoin security i don't even want to consider it.
smickles: if a sufficient % of the miners agreed to not include it, it wouldn't confirm (odds are) for a while
pgp: ok - let's assume for a moment that the txn is valid and like jbork say, just might take sometime to pick up... If they have yet to confirm, couldn't you convievebly beg large mining pools to exclude the txn for a little while until the "community" could opine on it?
dub: except the coin isnt at that address..
mod6: right, but if they had that set up, that would have been a clever safeguard
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i understand the protocol enough to say
mod6: Oh. i see. well that helps bitessak
mod6: mircea_popescu: that could be!
mircea_popescu: a nice then
mircea_popescu: and the attacker sent the tx with insufficient signaturing ?
mircea_popescu: is it possible they had the storage set up so you need multiple sigs
bitessak: Bitcoin-Central and Paytunia update: Our customer's bitcoins and euros are safe and will not be affected by the security breach. We have taken the websites off-line for proper investigation. The address 1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy is under our exclusive control.
smickles: Bugpowder: or a sick april fools joke with cleverly malformed txns
smickles: pgp: it's odd, to say the least
Bugpowder: Instawallet Cold Storage... Well then.... Either its not actually cold storage or its an inside job
pgp: maybe I'm just new arround here, but this seems really unsettling to me...
mod6: there is a .1 BTC fee on each of the two tx's: 996b0e98db80b20516313cd32920e7c8093a8a5bf1e1b1887747338a49052ce5 && 4cf56d0c1566778030095925328f4bc7ae988657bd62fe8bc05ac67302d32b4c
jborkl: I had a transaction get stuck the other day for 12 hours, send from bitcoind ... there was no reason at all
mircea_popescu: no hue fee is thwere.
Bugpowder: forgot to send a fee?
smickles: Bugpowder: but the tx hasn't confirmed for some reason
Bugpowder: AM I reading that right? instawallet got cleaned out of 41,000 BTC?
mircea_popescu: <dub> and ignoring anything that makes them look like tards << this worked well for them so far.
smickles: also, at least one of those txns is relayed by blockchain itself
dub: I think he's talking to goonie?
smickles: gmaxwell pointed out that at his node they are orphaned
smickles: I mean, i could generate that tx, but my sig would be bad, but i could still broadcast it
smickles: would blockchain.info show the fancy parts of the protocol? or bad sigs, hashes, stuff like that?
pgp: pissing into the wind...
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dub: and ignoring anything that makes them look like tards
pgp: any easy way to test parseability of transaction
dub: surely nobody is that stupid
smickles: someone clever could do that with no fear
smickles: most likely, considering the day
smickles: also, it could be malformed, or made in such a way that no miners will pick it up, no matter what
smickles: and all other kind of fancy things
pgp: wait a sec - doesn't the protocol permit the ability to book transactions in the future?
mpexbot: smickles: 1313 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-03-30 16:07:38
dub: I think actually transacting with bitcoin is pretty broken
mod6: yeah each of the tx's has .1 fee
_aeon: cramer's boss makes him talk about bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: on TV
ThickAsThieves: cnbc ticker says bitcoin at 4:40pm est
pgp: yeah - something is definately strange with this - has yet to confim at all - how could that be?
_aeon: i'm amzed that i have just learned this
Namworld: aeon, why yes, I do have that happening. Back of the head.
_aeon: the marker on the paper noise does it somehow
pgp: that's right... akin to that "sinking feeling"
_aeon: it's nice to know i am not alone
bitessak: no wonder my 0.4BTC trsf from instawallet never materialized
jurov: and it's mostly on top of the head
jurov: anyway it does happen to me, mostly when i realize some fubar situation
_aeon: diareah of the hands
_aeon: people who will admit that this happens to them
_aeon: or someone touching your head or whispering
_aeon: specifically, the head-rush tingling from music
_aeon: who wants to talk about that or admit that it happens to you
mod6: nice guys though. i'll be sure to do business over there. not
deadweasel: whooops, accidentally sent all the cold storage to my own wallet... LATER!
mircea_popescu: yeah that's usually what it is.
mircea_popescu: wtf cold wallet is that anyway.
pgp: prolly TMI...
pgp: not my coins, but man... just the thought of it makes my balls tingle with dread...
ThickAsThieves: how safe do you think blockchain wallet is?
kakobrekla: yeah man i noticed some strange uncofirmed in my bitcoin, that explains it!
mod6: We have detected a security breach. << this seems to be a scary thing though - despite it being April 1st.
mircea_popescu: in general it's polite to say when you move large chunks like that
_aeon: instawallet fubar or they move it all the cold storage as defense mechanism\
mircea_popescu: the tx i mean not blocks
mircea_popescu: maybe the blocks are somehow borkt ?
pgp: looks odd to me...
pgp: but several blocks have been mined since then and not a single confirmation?
mircea_popescu: or else they just got ficked.
mircea_popescu: either they are mentally retarded and thibnk this is a fun april 1st thing to do
pgp: https://instawallet.org/ says the same thing - the two are related?
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smickles: well, that's optimism fer ya
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