930700+ entries in 0.648s
pigeons: topace: any word on rebroadcasting
those
transactions?
gribble: MtGox lag is 23.913118 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.0479216207274 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately
the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
mircea_popescu: it boggles me how
the heck did sturles manage
to reference gox lag
the ONE
TIME in
the past... um... 6 months ?!
gribble: MtGox lag is 23.416337 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.0469260771656 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin
ten
times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 140.80000, Best ask: 141.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last
trade: 140.80000, 24 hour volume: 121358.82585477, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.12000, 24 hour vwap: 127.64149
mircea_popescu: besides, if you have a fund
that sorta-fits
the profile (exotic/emergent money market)
gribble: This order would exceed
the size of
the order book. You would buy 55695.451 bitcoins, for a
total of 14145613197667.5664 USD and
take
the price
to 9999999999998.9004. | Data vintage: 45.4887 seconds
gribble: A market order
to buy 50000 bitcoins right now would
take 14003105.1552 USD and would
take
the last price up
to 1365.0843 USD, resulting in an average price of 280.0621 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 27.9421 seconds
gribble: This order would exceed
the size of
the order book. You would buy 55695.451 bitcoins, for a
total of 14145613197667.5664 USD and
take
the price
to 9999999999998.9004. | Data vintage: 11.2836 seconds
gribble: A market order
to buy 25000 bitcoins right now would
take 3717531.0041 USD and would
take
the last price up
to 169.9000 USD, resulting in an average price of 148.7012 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
mircea_popescu: what's your 100mn guy
to do, buy bitcoins and hold
them ?
mircea_popescu: so
that's about 5mn worth of outstanding s.dice stock. about
the same worth of s.mpoe.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 137.60001, Best ask: 137.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.39998, Last
trade: 137.99999, 24 hour volume: 115568.41634731, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.02546
gesell: mircea_popescu: on
that last point, i agree
error4733: usualy i bet a good dinner in
this case but roumania is
to far if i win
mircea_popescu: basically
the media has
turned into a sort of massive reddit, buncha people
trying
to perch
themselves into
the stratosphere
mircea_popescu: none of
them are calling unheard of whoever
that guy is cause i don't know him
mircea_popescu: there's not
that many funds
that have
the sort of capital
that'd allow
them
tio place 100mn into exotic weird
thing, and also have
the rifght profile.
error4733: mp : i guess is 20 calls a day for a
total 100M$, i want belive hehe
mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr: If
this is excellent I bet nobody eats what you cook.
MJR_: ThickAsThieves: lol...its crazy when you hang out with people who understand computers and
then get confronted with "can we just make all of
them blue" (select all)
MJR_: my coworker gets me green
tea from
taiwan
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves don't believe everything you read in
the newspapers btw.
mircea_popescu: there's
this little shop just opened, very good quality stuffs.
ThickAsThieves: i got some nice jasmine
tea recently,
the fancy kind you put in a metal ball :)
mircea_popescu: jasmine
tea and fresghly baked chocolate muffins. life sux dunnit.
ThickAsThieves: "sorry sir,
that's
too many bitcoins, you'd break
the system"
ThickAsThieves: I
taught someone
that has been using Windows for at least 10 years how
to Alt-Tab
the other day. "I need
to hang around you more often!"
MJR_: i'm like...is
this your first
time using a keyboard?
gribble: MtGox lag is 83.288833 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.166909888784 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin
ten
times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
jurov: don't
tell me mtgox can do
this
jurov: and
there was certainly 1000 orders arriving/cancelled during
that
time
jurov: there was no noticeable lag at all, coinbr users ninja-inserted orders in
the middle of it
jurov: sturles, highest mpex
trade spike i have recorded in live.coinbr records is 100
trades/5 seconds on BitBet IPO
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 7779848.36874 based on data since last change | 8359883.55097 based on data for last
three days
gribble: MtGox lag is 26.943103 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.053993676742 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately
the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 135.90500, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09500, Last
trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 115725.71210364, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 127.07562
sturles: Just join
the channel
to see for yourself.
sturles: I'm not going
to paste everything here. Will get dropped for flooding.
sturles: No, I
told you,
there were otehr (aggregated)
trades reported in
the same minute, before and after.
mircea_popescu: and so it's prbably
the bot aggregated 149
trades over 5 minutes or something
mircea_popescu: because
the aggregated set would logically be from between
the previous and
the next report
sturles: But because #bitcoin-market reports
trades from most exchanges,
there are several unimpoprtant lines in between.
sturles: Why should I quote more?
There are more
than 100 right
there. And I
tild you
there were
trades before and after during
the same minute.
sturles: Join
the channel youself if you care so much.
mircea_popescu: sturles a little more
than just
the one line if you don't mind
sturles: Several other
trades during
the same minute.
gribble: MtGox lag is 37.58024 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.0753103801907 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin
ten
times between Saturn and
Titan (0.0802 AU).
mircea_popescu: either you don't at all understand
the
topic or are
trolling me.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying querying 5000 records is not
the same
thing as querying 5000 records.
sturles: 16 order books
to check instad of one. Why would
that make 0 difference?
mircea_popescu: so find me a space where
that bot reports > 100
trades a minute.
sturles: 11
trades making up a
total 28.8811 BTC at
the average price of 133.42578222 USD.
sturles: Also note
that many sites reporting MtGox
trades aggregates many small
trades into one report. Like
this example from #bitcoin-market:
mircea_popescu: i still don't grasp why you imagine
this'd make a difference.
sturles: A mix
trade is where an order in one currency was matched with an order in another currency.
sturles: The other currency order books are also stuffed with lots and lots of 0.01235 orders. Which makes many
trades for just one coin.
ChaangNoi: lol worked until i wanted
to
take out money, broke again
sturles: mircea_popescu: Yes, many
trades are mix-trades between e.g. EUR and USD. And most other currency
trades are low in volume.
mircea_popescu: now
the part where mtgox comes out with self congratulatory bit remains.
mircea_popescu: so let's see :
the part where i say "attacker has found his weak spot, moves on" is pretty accurate.
ChaangNoi: yeah, i was just
trying ot
take out money lol
sturles: mircea_popescu: Doesn't look like it. Seems
to be USD only. Much of
the
trading on MtGox is in other currencies.
ChaangNoi: yeah it looks like no one can make
trades
sturles: SIX doesn't provide API access
to
the entire internet. Can't compare it.
ChaangNoi: btct.co is fail for me,
they being ddosed?
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
sturles: MJR_: MtGox reports lag in microseconds as well. I have been logging every minute for a while, and
the most common value is 0. On a normal day with just a few standard DDoS attacks, it is above 1 second a few
times every hour.
gribble: There are currently 11713.428 bitcoins offered at or under 147.0 USD, worth 1658048.18491 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
mircea_popescu: MJR_> but I also
thought
that it was hilarious
that
they said "All exchanges suffer from lag"...yeah and we measure it in microseconds << just had
this discussion above, was explaining how six promises 37 microsecond delay
gesell: did you read about
the DDoS against spamhaus?
mircea_popescu: i
think im getting a little frazzled i've been doing nothing but explaining
this for
the past 3 hours
gesell: i just aknowledge
that
gesell: but in general spreading out
the interfaces over different hauls could help, while also adding a lot of complexity
gesell: yeah was also
thinking about
this but I guess it depends on
the nature of
the DDoS. If it is similar
to
that used against spamhaus a few weeks ago...
the attacker could still induce panic by attacking
the website and read only API
to get
ticker
gesell: i highly doubt other exchanges would be prepared for such a DDoS.
The issue is
that people using other exchanges would make
the
target less obvious
MJR_: but I also
thought
that it was hilarious
that
they said "All exchanges suffer from lag"...yeah and we measure it in microseconds