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mjr_: i thought there were only 2 of them
mjr_: i need to read up on traunch, not sure if that is the right spelling
mjr_: that is a nice way of doing it
mjr_: that is what i was thinking...you do insulate yourself from that risk on mirceau's side but smickles would have to go to the court i guess?
mjr_: but also with options...having to put up collateral before you exercise
mjr_: but i can see why that may not work
mjr_: and you could short...
mjr_: its interesting to look at the differences...usually smickles could just say he will lend you the shares without actually transferring them
mjr_: yeah it is interesting
mjr_: is that through coinbr?
mjr_: how do you do that?
mjr_: :) so much fun to watch
mjr_: how'd the bot do jurov?
mjr_: i would make as many trades as possible to maximize my investment
mjr_: oh but yeah that is fixed, if you are going to be a trader, and i paid a one time/ or monthly fee
mjr_: spread jumped a ton
mjr_: jurov: why would a fixed percentage fee affect size of orders? you gain nothing by increasing your volume
mjr_: (really should have one for any kind of automated system)
mjr_: ooh, i just thought about designing a risk monitor
mjr_: you are pretty well hedged
mjr_: but if you buy the puts and the calls...
mjr_: the options can be a bit trickier cuz they seem to be pretty thinly traded
mjr_: it is not very risky (i want to get in the position)
mjr_: and as i said, since my goal is to acquire a long position over time at the lowest possible price...
mjr_: .24% if i am going through coinbr
mjr_: so with 1.24% on mpoe... i can make .84% every trade by basically just filling market orders
mjr_: and its a fixed cost
mjr_: .2% or .5% is very small
mjr_: and i don't think the fees are very high
mjr_: but i account for fees
mjr_: it is so much fun to watch this
mjr_: lol the spread is actually increasing on mpoe
mjr_: but i do try my best
mjr_: it could greatly simplify user interface, make a more robust system that is more secure, and easier to maintain, less vulnerable to single point of failure problems
mjr_: actually, i think that mirceau_popescu's idea behind his trading platform could be huge
mjr_: but you may need to install some libraries for it to work
mjr_: its like 15 lines or something
mjr_: i put my code up earlier if anyone wanted to look
mjr_: but i would find it very interesting to see them interact
mjr_: so that way if you have a small order, i am reasonably sure i'd get filled after you for one satoshi more
mjr_: i think i just said "if volume less than 5000, go 1 satoshi behind, else go 1 satoshi in front
mjr_: just curious how you came up with bid/ask prices is all
mjr_: and i was referring to mpoe
mjr_: if so, why would it not just go 1 satoshi in front or behind
mjr_: also is your bot running right now?
mjr_: and if you want any help on it, i'm down
mjr_: did you look at angular?
mjr_: edit: i mean a browser based trading platform
mjr_: in fact, if you made that interface, you could actually use selenium for your trading bot, which would be pretty cool
mjr_: which i think would be PERFECT for a web based trading platform
mjr_: i wanted to play with angular.js
mjr_: which would not be fun i think
mjr_: yeah i figured it'd be easiest to use web so i wouldn't have to actually create charts in a desktop app
mjr_: my app wasn't performance oriented but rather i wanted the easy UI admin from django
mjr_: but i like twisted a lot
mjr_: i used django with python in my last web based project
mjr_: i am gonna look at the code now
mjr_: ie. integrated charts, depth of book, ticker, positions, executions, real time p&l
mjr_: which i think would be a huge value to the trading community
mjr_: i mean, IDEALLY you could then use a lot of those pieces to build either a web based trading platform or an actual desktop application
mjr_: but i will look at it :)
mjr_: i would have to write the position monitor, and i would have to write a driver so my orders could be translated to mpex orders
mjr_: after that point, it would only be creating a position monitor, and then linking to a driver for pympex (or something at coinbr)
mjr_: and if i could monitor them in real time
mjr_: i wanted to see if the crazy spreads i saw last night were real
mjr_: not sure about execution time etc, but i don't think i need to whip out the c++ yet, do I?
mjr_: python is easy and it is a nice way to try a PoC
mjr_: i mean, i mostly wrote the spread finder cuz it was fun
mjr_: which i think would be awesome
mjr_: or having me contribute in some way
mjr_: i think he was referring to licensing code to me
mjr_: so i could build that engine to monitor my account and then update my positions and orders table
mjr_: that would be awesome
mjr_: i would mostly just like an ack on order being received, and then an execution be sent if i got filled
mjr_: would be nice i suppose, but parsing sql and parsing json is about the same effort
mjr_: do you mean select SQL command?
mjr_: they are made because they are looting returns...best performer in their portfolio
mjr_: look at last sentence...