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mircea_popescu: but also have already the dividends on MPEx
mircea_popescu: to make a push request so that the time on it shows he got in early to deserve dividends on PT
mircea_popescu: jurov if you go by the mpex issued timer, it would be (at least in theory) possible for the user to at least attempt
jurov: user is actually incentivised to time-attack the entire system << i don't get it?
topace|2: so ill just get this paid and worry about it later
topace|2: well ill just go with this for now, kinda in a rush to get out of here
mircea_popescu: it will become possible if difficult to try and time it so he appears to deserve it both ways
mircea_popescu: but seriously, consider the converse approach : user is actually incentivised to time-attack the entire system
jurov: i just shrugged over it, write all balance changes to db and then resolve shit manually
mircea_popescu: just as soon as they figure out how.
mircea_popescu: let their government pay us to do that.
mircea_popescu: we do not have the resources to sustain a consumerist attitude on the users.
mircea_popescu: cheaper for the developer.
mircea_popescu: i think that outlook is crucial to allow us further development cheaper
mircea_popescu: topace|2 that'd be their problem.
topace|2: not a problem for me, but if someone makes the push before, but doesnt post it to havelock until after, then they completely miss out on the dividend
jurov: yes you "just" have to call stat every few seconds
mircea_popescu: is this a problem ?
mircea_popescu: but as a prototype : "21:08 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 445.0881225 BTC to". all pushes you received prior to 21:08 you count as before
topace|2: ThickAsThieves: its on our very long todo list
ThickAsThieves: does that mean coinbr to havelock pushes are coming soon?
jurov: i'm fortunate to have one
mircea_popescu: i'll have an argument over this topic again tho.
mircea_popescu: the thing here is that this sorta conflicts on a philosophical level, as in, i'd rather have tx's dated by parties than by central system.
topace|2: aka, which i should approve the push for BEFORE the dividend is paid, and which i should wait to approve the push until after
topace|2: how do i know which should receive the dividend, and which shouldnt
topace|2: sure for this one instance, i only have one pending push
mircea_popescu: well that you can resolve by math, no ? divide net by units ?
MJR_: just a thought
topace|2: yes, i have no idea if the dividend i received includes the dividend for the units that were pushed or not
MJR_: bitcoin is inflationary? on a net basis...i would say it is deflationary now (the goods available are increasing faster than the currency)
mircea_popescu: topace|2 you see a problem with that approach ?
jurov: topace|2: the gpg signature contains time, no?
mircea_popescu: you can count it from the time he shows it to you
mircea_popescu: topace|2 well the idea is to allow the push-er this freedom
topace|2: i have no way of knowing if this push request to havelock was before or after the sdice dividend
mircea_popescu: MJR_ this is true in principle. bitcoin inflation is still marked however.
topace|2: mircea_popescu: could you add the push date/time to the push receipt ?
ThickAsThieves: i have at least convinced here we need to get the hell out of Florida
mircea_popescu: "honey.... let's move to cancun, a lot of cheap sluts over there and they have bigger tits than you do"
MJR_: well, getting back the same exact amount you invested is a net win
ThickAsThieves: i also havent pinpointed a specific place and argument for moving there either
mircea_popescu: hey, me too!
ThickAsThieves: i'm not that type
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you don't have chains in the house ?
ThickAsThieves: i'd leave the US for the hell of it if my wife was down with it
mircea_popescu: <evoorhees> just in time for what?<<< poor guy. just because they're not after him doesn't mean he's not paranoid.
gribble: MtGox lag is 70.001993 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.140283210191 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.82500, Best ask: 143.86603, Bid-ask spread: 1.04103, Last trade: 143.86603, 24 hour volume: 69165.45857475, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 137.79288
pgp: time to move to bitcoins...
dub: there they go 7,019.47 GH/s
dub: up to 7Th on guld now
MJR_: s.dice still turned a profit after that month
gribble: MtGox lag is 29.336976 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0587909714308 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
jurov: coinbr users got paid from s.dice, too
MJR_: evoorhees: hey there!
evoorhees: lol my net worth is nowhere near that
evoorhees: well that's up to the marketplace :)
[\\\]: so it should be pretty stable as to the float at this time
evoorhees: no, no plans to release more shares
[\\\]: evoorhees, are there plans to release/sell more shares?
gribble: MtGox lag is 18.559306 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0371926414237 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
ThickAsThieves: i dont think we'll see 150 today
gribble: A market order to buy 3500 bitcoins right now would take 508025.3582 USD and would take the last price up to 146.9727 USD, resulting in an average price of 145.1501 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 7.8158 seconds
gribble: A market order to buy 2500 bitcoins right now would take 361889.8503 USD and would take the last price up to 145.9200 USD, resulting in an average price of 144.7559 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0002 seconds
gribble: There are currently 31146741 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11500405.32 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.0569 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.91000, Best ask: 143.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59000, Last trade: 142.90000, 24 hour volume: 66234.91364395, 24 hour low: 130.24303, 24 hour high: 144.94000, 24 hour vwap: 137.17646
error4733: haha, 100% true
error4733: no but more easy for you outside US to deal with large sum of gambling income
evoorhees: I don't think the gov has any intention of a crackdown just yet
evoorhees: just in time for what?
error4733: well done, just in time !
[\\\]: you take all the fun out of it
[\\\]: is that a bfl 2 weeks?
evoorhees: I'll provide a good update in about 2 weeks I think
[\\\]: but since I've already told you, I'm done.
ThickAsThieves: okay you can tell me too
[\\\]: ThickAsThieves: wait for the damn update on forums plz
ThickAsThieves: feel free to tell me to 'wait for the damn update on forums plz"
[\\\]: increasing the max bid?
evoorhees: has this been a matter of contention?
ThickAsThieves: will ther ebe any adjustments to min/max bids going forward?
deadweasel: it's gambling. i'll take the opportunity to buy more sdice. ;)
mod6: well, jackpots are part of the game! and keeps interest high.
evoorhees: my apologies for the low performing month, the 1920 btc jackpot really put a damper on things
evoorhees: oh bot beat me to it :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 445.0881225 BTC to 50`000`000 shares, 890 satoshi per share
jcpham: day in, and day out, we trying to get this paper
jcpham: they say i'm gettin fresher every time i turn around
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.10100, Best ask: 143.98000, Bid-ask spread: 1.87900, Last trade: 142.10100, 24 hour volume: 60924.16404900, 24 hour low: 129.00100, 24 hour high: 141.89000, 24 hour vwap: 136.18292
gribble: There are currently 31144502 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11685628.9433 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0148 seconds
gribble: MtGox lag is 46.315103 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0928149478423 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
pizzaman1337: evoorhees: how's that bitinstant debit card going?
ThickAsThieves: in the rear
ThickAsThieves: what wonderful sdice updates do you bring us today?
ThickAsThieves: it only lags when there are lots of orders in one direction
ThickAsThieves: i'm beginning to believe this soft order thing really is the problemn
deadweasel: i think gox does need ;;goxlax
gribble: MtGox lag is 196.769549 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.394323973054 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
gribble: There are currently 31143382 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11579625.3003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0114 seconds