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MJR__: ah, so you
think
that
the fact I know
the name "Mircea Popescu" makes me feel safe?
mircea_popescu: there's
this post
the girl keeps linking
the noobs
to.
MJR__: if everyone assumed
that
tux or you would definitely run off with money...
MJR__: but if everyone had
that mentality
there's be no gox or mpex...
mircea_popescu: basically
they'll
take btc and
the day net outflow > net inflow
they're gone.
MJR__: and it seems reasonably certain
that
they are one of
the operators of a minor BTC exchange
MJR__: think
they have a Cayman Islands brokerage account
MJR__: and
tor broker holds your position for you
MJR__: I agree
totally, and although credit and debt will creep into bitcoin more, I
think
that doing something 100:1 in BTC will seem ridiculous for a long
term strategy
gribble: There are currently 3658.0807 bitcoins demanded at or over 150.0 USD, worth 554865.745375 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0104 seconds
mircea_popescu: well whether you have
to or not, it still makes you vulnerable
MJR__: mircea_popescu: don't you have
to do
that when you are leveraged at such a high rate?
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people realise just what a formbidable
threat
to stability and ultimately survival JIT is for
the US.
MJR__: By declaring bitcoin illegal because bitcoins provide a way
to avoid
taxes
the government is saying
that bitcoin is a great way
to avoid paying
taxes. It works at
transmitting and saving money anonymously. What an endorsement. "Bitcoin works so please don't use it."
mircea_popescu: prolly you
thought only old people can have black cock
MJR__: it must be all
that "damn kids get off my lawn"
MJR__: lol I
thought he was
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you really don't look
that old in your pictures...
mod6: i had half a mind
to
troll
that
tweet
MJR__: I retweeted
that
this morning
mircea_popescu: if anyone wants
to put
that
tweet on
the chart
timeline...
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 8796662.53748 based on data since last change | 8366350.18727 based on data for last
three days
MJR__: opposite of weekend dip now, interesting
trend shift
MJR__: low volume..."rally" is impatient people who don't want
to wait
till Monday for some depth
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 160.01002, Best ask: 161.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98998, Last
trade: 161.00000, 24 hour volume: 40447.90337002, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 149.81158
mod6: but
then i guess
there's
this
that says: On September 14, 2012, Egan-Jones cut its rating a
third
time from AA
to AA-,
the lowest of what is considered "high grade", as a reaction
to QE3.
mod6: its like AA+ now i
think
thestringpuller: WoT will be more like WEBS of
Trust since what matters is "who you
trust" in conjunction with "who
they
trust"
mircea_popescu: we have
the wot system, it works just fine, why centralise ?
mircea_popescu: there's nobody with
the intellectual ability
to do such a
thing.
thestringpuller: that is it would have
to be established in conjunction with a pillar already in existence
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it seems you are opposed
to a ratings agency for BTC
mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl : "Blockbuster Lawsuit: Whistleblower Alleges Reuters Releases Data Early
to HFT Clients"
thestringpuller: "
talk is cheap, anyone can say anything. " "What you say are just words, what matters is what you do"
MJR__: first off, we have no idea who is running
this yet...right?
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 161.60000, Best ask: 162.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last
trade: 162.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
gribble: MtGox lag is 75.580385 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.1514622453 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin
ten
times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
mircea_popescu: well ya. so random noob showing up on forum and proposing
to "advise your wealth" or
to "pls halp me r spanish mother of
two" or
to "supersikrit
tor broker of irl securities"
MJR__: obviously it's based on
trust
MJR__: I meant
that afaik mpex sees your account (gpg key)
jurov: MJR__: you can push
to escrow and show receipt
mircea_popescu: there's a process
to obtain a bitcoin financial license.
MJR__: well,
they have asked
to put 1000btc into a
trust
that shows
they have backing
MJR__: hence brokerage...similar
to coinbr
jurov: mircea_popescu ah yes
that's a point. it's hard
to do irl without revealing identity
to escrow
jurov: gesell no,
the ask side is very weak
mircea_popescu: well
that's because escrow could verify
that a push was made.
gesell: reeeally? as if bank
transfers all game in on
the weekend?
jurov: mircea_popescu: not only escrow is
the difference. if such scheme was done for mpex stocks,
there isn't
that legal liability
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 160.00000, Best ask: 161.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last
trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 159.99010, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00990, Last
trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
cccjd: Anyone wanna
trade BTC-E
to PayPal
gesell: mircea_popescu:
thanks. will look deaper
mircea_popescu: MJR__
the issue are not
the parties
themselves, but
the escrow.
that's
the leak here.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 159.98500, Best ask: 160.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01500, Last
trade: 160.00000, 24 hour volume: 38378.01921193, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.67001, 24 hour vwap: 149.13329
gesell: i mean
the new files for bitcoin-qt (the fact
that
the full old chain isnt
there anymore)
gesell: question, I would like
to replicate some of dooglus work on monitoring Sdice... are
the BitcoinArmory scripts updated
to work with
the new chain structure ?
jurov: MJR__: but
the irl stock have
to be on some irl account, not somewhere anonymously in
the air
MJR__: just anon
to
the market outside
those
two parties
MJR__: I don't
think it had
to be anon
to
the parties involved
MJR__: two humans
talking, same
thing
MJR__: guess it comes down
to how broad you want
to paint
the strokes
MJR__: one asking for money
to be sent
the other isn't
mircea_popescu: which makes both
the exact same
thing, sobletters on
the interwebs.
mircea_popescu: and without viable escrow,
the deal simply is, "i ar anon, send monyz plz
thx"
mircea_popescu: there's nothing he can do. if he has a means
to actually verify
tx
then it's not anon.
mircea_popescu: let's play
this out cause apparently it's hard. A has 100 AAPL. B has 100 BTC. X is escrow.
MJR__: but don't have all
the details, long story short, a guy giving away advice for free and a black market for wall st are not related in any way
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 159.00001, Best ask: 159.06500, Bid-ask spread: 0.06499, Last
trade: 159.06500, 24 hour volume: 38316.07677332, 24 hour low: 142.01000, 24 hour high: 159.50000, 24 hour vwap: 149.08608
MJR__: I was saying
that stock is directly
transferred
MJR__: SR can confess
to your escrow
MJR__: I believe
that's
the point of
tor...
MJR__: I can send my stock
to whatever account I want iirc