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taub: bgupta: all usd from the bid vs the coins on the ask
jurov: iirc mp said they place orders with expiration date, they don't actively cancel them
jurov: why would they wait? it's risky
unbalanced_: I remember reading something about stale info a week or two ago and am just trying to grok it now
unbalanced_: Do the the bots wait X minutes on an outage or do they go straight to n/a
jurov: instead of looking around for some cloud/cdn solution to distribute their api
unbalanced_: And when the bots have been blind for X minutes because of a b...charts api crapout, they go to n/a
jurov: but they warn that it shouldn't be fetched more often than every 15min.
bgupta: taub: what's that ratio?
jurov: if it's there, ofc.
jurov: and btcharts vwap seems to be updated continuously
bowjob: im prepping for my avalon. didnt have too much time to think.
bgupta: bowjob, best to hit the slush irc channel…
unbalanced_: How often do the bots sample the bitcoincharts 24hr vwap?
rikur: but yeah, not going to bit again on bets like this. unfair rules still, can't understand why you don't agree.
bowjob: then i click mine, and it doesnt seems to work
bowjob: I registered on slush's pool. i inputted my worker bowjob.worker1 and put whatever password they supplied me
bowjob: "valueerror: need more than 1 value to unpack
bowjob: im trying to figure out this mining game
unbalanced_: Yeah they're boned now
gribble: MtGox lag is 3.389127 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00679177256144 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 199.96722, Best ask: 200.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03278, Last trade: 200.00000, 24 hour volume: 104305.48741673, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 205.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.36658
taub: lax is next to zero too
taub: still working for me, the data stream at least
taub: up from 290 during the breakout runup
taub: there's a ton of buying pressure
bgupta: new bet: will btc trade below 200.. ;)
rikur: and still, the weight should be re-calibrated in bets that end earlier
mircea_popescu: read the faq.
rikur: mircea_popescu: I can't see this risky last minute bet mentioned on the site
mircea_popescu: how do you know you're not being social engineered in a case like that ?
jurov: and wasn't able to produce a btc addy even with hint
jurov: oh i already am.. there's a guy who forgot both his coinbr username, password and email
jurov: lol hehe... i'm considering to enact something like
mircea_popescu: jurov it's incredibly efficient in encouraging people not to litter.
jurov: we just happen to have this "sinkhole in foyer, whatever falls in is kept" capitalism here
mircea_popescu: "Looking for someone to create/modify software for this forum [5500+ BTC] " << bitcointalk now has > 1mn dollars in software devbiounty
mircea_popescu: maybe bitcoin is a little new to you.
mircea_popescu: btc goes to shareholders.
rikur: so what happens if they don't make it
mircea_popescu: it wasn't expired addies, it was more specifically : guy sees bet about to close, sends btc, doesn't make in before close.
jurov: so about 30btc was sent to expired addies???
mircea_popescu: irt's not that "i don;'t fix it". it's that what you're proposing is not a fix, and what i have is.
joeykrim: mircea_popescu, thx
rikur: so that's why you don't fix it
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 203.50001, Best ask: 203.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24999, Last trade: 203.99000, 24 hour volume: 103340.65692708, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 205.00000, 24 hour vwap: 188.16600
joeykrim: can you link to last month's report? sounds like a good read
mircea_popescu: half the dividends came from people trying to leech the betpools by betting late.
jurov: rikur if you want the bet weight to reflect tmkt information, you're plainly using wrong instrument
rikur: far less risky, you gotta admit that
mircea_popescu: s not just totally different. its very risky to bet 10 at the last minute.
bowjob: you should keep the btc
mircea_popescu: if the bet closes before theior bet makes it in.
rikur: it is totally different to bet Yes with 10 BTC early on than 50 BTC on the last minute
mircea_popescu: rikur they also incur the list on losing their capital
bowjob: there should be a rule on bitbet if people try to game the system by putting btc after the event stops
rikur: mircea_popescu: it is unfair in general whenever the bet can end before the max life time
mircea_popescu: in order for it to be unfair it'd have to be unfair in general, not inconvenient to some case.
mircea_popescu: but it does not make the system unfair in itself.
bgupta: btw - kinda glad I lost that bet
mircea_popescu: rikur the fact that the information has changed may make the system inconvenient for oyu
rikur: lol, but the information the bets are placed has changed
bgupta: so we gonna get a rash of articles talking about 200 and 2 billion
rikur: jurov: when I bet Yes at around 160$, I was taking much higher risk than last minute 50 BTC bettor don't you agree?
gribble: There are currently 7289.0965 bitcoins offered at or under 235.0 USD, worth 1564703.04003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 91.5550 seconds
gribble: There are currently 31615980 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12659267.2931 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.7371 seconds
bgupta: the bet was more yes folks than no folks through most of it's life
jurov: they will get their money minus house edge
rikur: huh your algo is not that smart then
rikur: jurov: they would get their own money back and a tiny profit on top of that
jurov: lol some bitch weight is too small, others that it is too big
rikur: but the weight is relatively still high
rikur: mircea_popescu: for example this mtgox bet, you get more information as price goes higher and it's less risky to bet yes
jurov: also, then bettors betting just before lifetime would get almost 0 weight
rikur: I know, but since the weight was given against the Last of April, even last minute better get 50% weighted
damientrog: yes the weight of your bet will be higher
rikur: hey does the betting time get re-adjusted for the actual length of the bet?
MJR_: geez, not even a little time to pause and reflect on how far we've come...nope, on to 300 NAO
MJR_: bitcoinity is the best channel on tv lol
MJR_: at what point do they cease seeing a bubble and start seeing a new price level?
ColdHardMetal: bitcoinity bringing the lulz again
gribble: There are currently 881.21269 bitcoins offered at or under 202.0 USD, worth 177205.166732 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
mircea_popescu: heh what's the rush
rikur: me too
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.48000, Best ask: 200.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 200.40000, 24 hour volume: 97559.81266110, 24 hour low: 172.13000, 24 hour high: 197.48000, 24 hour vwap: 187.02354
damientrog: just won the bet :D
mircea_popescu: course i wouldn't sell it at that.
bgupta: al seem pretty high, but I think that reflects an expectation of growth in usd/btc ratio.
mircea_popescu: About you trollers , all I have to say is: "clap clap clap clap ! ". May you get it and may it be penicillin resistant.
mircea_popescu: for 6 months thios ?!
bgupta: umm a bitcoin trading company that just holds bitcoins that you could just as easily hold yourself?
kakobrekla: holding BTCs to avoid bad sell from our shareholders. This strategy now proved to be correct and to prize our algorithm. We proud of a very good work.
kakobrekla: Since October 2012, BTC market conditions changed, and our algorithm stop trading, pointing to hold BTCs as the most profit action to be taken. So we did this way,
kakobrekla: (not sure is that good or bad)
mircea_popescu: may the bird of paradise fly up your nose!
mircea_popescu: omfg this guy :D
mircea_popescu: what happened there
kakobrekla: what happend there?
punkman: "1. We have only just opened 2. We have no previous history 3. We are taking your money in Advance"
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.00001, Best ask: 186.84340, Bid-ask spread: 0.84339, Last trade: 187.00000, 24 hour volume: 113791.55742270, 24 hour low: 161.29378, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 181.32145