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gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 255.00000, Best ask: 258.99000, Bid-ask spread: 3.99000, Last trade: 255.00000, 24 hour volume: 98201.05349287, 24 hour low: 205.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.21993
bitesak: i followed bugpowder analysis and bought 188 at the beginning of the month. Seemed risky back then :)
thestringpuller: Namworld: very surreal, is this what happens when a lot of money enters a market, or will come April 29th, MPOE-Bot will have lost much
Namworld: the margin asked on those calls is massive...
thestringpuller: bitesak: yea the 24hprc
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.52000, Best ask: 259.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 259.00000, 24 hour volume: 98201.05349287, 24 hour low: 205.20000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.21993
bitesak: thestringpuller: the weighted average price too?
thestringpuller: Wow a call bought yesterday is itm today...this is fishy
kakobrekla: accually i dont keep the vwap in the db only derivates of it since 26.5.2011
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 258.00001, Best ask: 259.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99999, Last trade: 259.00000, 24 hour volume: 96828.50560386, 24 hour low: 205.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.94314
deadweasel: i want to know also. just telling error4733
pgp: of course... I want to know if there is a historical record of those values anywhere?
deadweasel: at that moment.
pgp: is there a resource out there with historical 24h averages?
gribble: MtGox lag is 114.26117 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.228978105348 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
deadweasel: so it takes all spot vwaps for 24 hrs and averages them into $avg.
deadweasel: so 24hr vwap is the leading number for the avg...
gribble: MtGox lag is 3.442951 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0068996352548 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
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gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.99000, Best ask: 265.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 264.99000, 24 hour volume: 96781.06266826, 24 hour low: 205.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.21792
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
Namworld: Better go spread some stuff to prop up my vested interests in Bitcoins...
Bugpowder: 24hr ave falls when the volume weighted price of the current time is less than the volume weighted price of what is rolling off the end of the 24hour window. This is rarely the same point of when the overall 24hr average > current spot price.
deadweasel: 24hr hr avg would have to stare falling onve price is less than avg... right.
deadweasel: but not more than say, 12 hours once the price turns down?
Bugpowder: deadweasel: it will probably climb even longer than that
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.00000, Best ask: 265.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 265.50000, 24 hour volume: 98543.24485812, 24 hour low: 204.00100, 24 hour high: 265.00000, 24 hour vwap: 230.36571
deadweasel: but but the avg will climb until price<avg
ThickAsThieves: unless we are reaching a new angle in the curve...
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Bugpowder: this is not a sustainable rally today... not enough bid support
Bugpowder: if the trend continues, yes, you should hold as long as you can.
deadweasel: ok. thx y'all. i do maffs tonight after work!
Bugpowder: at times
Bugpowder: but better do the math, cause da bot can be pricing things incorrectly
Bugpowder: almost always better to sell to the bot
bitesak: but last month, I had trouble selling mine and it was easier just to press on exercise in coinbr
ThickAsThieves: run the math, check which method works best at the time you are ready
bitesak: me too I have some 188 :)
bitesak: apparently, selling to bot is better
deadweasel: or is it better to sell to bot rather than exercise?
deadweasel: i have some C188s, if this trend continues it is best to let them auto-exercise? if trend turns down i should exercise them before expiration?
ThickAsThieves: lol, CoinLab PR is worse than Gox's
Bugpowder: Just got that email
Bugpowder: Because of the Gox team's strong customer data protection methodologies, we aren't allowed to deliver these things directly, they have to go through the Gox process and that's taking longer than any of us want. I will be in Tokyo next week, and should have more updates then.
kakobrekla: Our customers are saying really nice things about our customer service!
Bugpowder: We will continue to make progress, but we're waiting for two things to be implemented: Full customer data access Working wire and Dwolla withdrawal forms Once those are done, we'll be ready to go.
Bugpowder: Hello, I'm writing with an update regarding the Mt. Gox transition we announced a month ago. We've made good progress fulfilling direct buy and sell orders, and that seems to be going great. Our customers are saying really nice things about our customer service, and we've enjoyed making some direct connections with you.
Bugpowder: coinlab. What a bunch of tools
Namworld: 1 million a BTC please. Thank you, sir.
MJR_: i'm looking to buy ;)
Namworld: I would be able to sell BTC even higher
Namworld: I hope not too many fools bite... or do I?
MJR_: minimum to open account 100k euro
MJR_: apparently, exante has 81k bitcoins...giving them AUM of 20.25 million dollars
dub: (note thats about 50 times more bitcoins than will ever exist)
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 36730.056 bitcoins, for a total of 27477039122996.8594 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000. | Data vintage: 19.7813 seconds
bitesak: whats that command with $ amount and number of coins you could buy?
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
gribble: There are currently 20002.321 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 6885874.93277 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.2068 seconds
bitesak: price > $500 if they actually buy coins.
Namworld: and people not there to sell their Bitcoins...
Namworld: Then there's horders
Namworld: Many early day miners probably destroyed their wallets of "worthless bitcoins".
Namworld: bitesak: true, because most coins in existence are probably lost...
bitesak: 1billion will make the price go up more than 100
MJR_: do they cover it directly or offload to the markets
MJR_: and if someone wants to redeem 1000 fund units
MJR_: and i use the term loosely...they just buy bitcoins
taub: maybe gox giving them lag discount...
MJR_: wouldn't be surprised if others like them are a big part of the rally
Namworld: #bitcoin is almost the top channel on freenode
MJR_: where do they get access to the bitcoins? gox?
bitesak: wonder what price they offer? supposedly lots of 1k Btc
MJR_: and i think half the comments reference meth
MJR_: he says the most random crazy shit on his show
MJR_: was that maxkeiser?
taub: well it didnt' that's why i'm wondering
MJR_: when did it go to 211
bitesak: he is seeing what he wants to see or the drop to 211 is upcoming..
taub: I didn't know he was promoting bitcoins like this
taub: it blew through 211 and never came back
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 250.78500, Best ask: 250.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01500, Last trade: 250.80000, 24 hour volume: 99766.58677138, 24 hour low: 201.56584, 24 hour high: 250.80000, 24 hour vwap: 228.36193
taub: there was no pullback to 211
taub: As I predicted: BTC would hit $250 (+/- 1%) and then pull back (as we've seen to $211). This is very healthy bull market action.
ThickAsThieves: no need to pm
ThickAsThieves: Selling Call Options for lower than mpex bot, available in 86, 95, 104, 128, 131, 134
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.78598, Best ask: 249.78600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 249.78598, 24 hour volume: 100347.88063017, 24 hour low: 199.78000, 24 hour high: 250.50000, 24 hour vwap: 228.10415
taub: or make the one i have os...
taub: i think i'll write an open source exchange
taub: to be running something like bitfinex on top of it
taub: mtgox is way too fucking laggy
KRS1: lol does this mean its just gonna keep going up bid $248.53 ask $249.40 there's practically no spread
pgp: they don't disclose how much of a cushion they have to protect against that...
pgp: what happens when the market moves down too fast for bitfinex to autoliquidate the margined longs?
bowjob: 2k USD to lend eh
MJR_: not only do they have risk procedures in place to autoliquidate the position if they lose their money, but they also guarantee that if they don't catch them in time, they will make up for it
taub: lost 8 coins trying to fish for a top
bowjob: coz they deposit btc