asciilifeform: electronic one -- we have already !

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~whole point of gamma rng is to divorce from electronic effects.

asciilifeform: it degenerates over ~decade

asciilifeform: same reason, i found, using ZnS is a mistake

asciilifeform: it 'goes blind'

asciilifeform: the holes are often permanent.

asciilifeform: from inside, or outside.

asciilifeform: at any rate you don't want mEv photons hitting your die.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: software ~on what~

asciilifeform: (debiaser, serial encoder, etc.)

asciilifeform: you don't want to zap the deterministic parts.

asciilifeform: mno.

asciilifeform: one of the items on asciilifeform's back burner recently has been to properly test various variants of this.

asciilifeform: that leaves semiconductors (pin diode) and semiconductor+scintillator combo.

asciilifeform: traditional geiger tubes, i rejected for this ( they 1) wear out quickly 2) require ~1kV dc, which has to come out of an oscillating boost converter 3) need very energetic photon to work, which means collecting radioactive crud locally, you typically won't be able to post it )

asciilifeform: the straightest way to rngize decay is to count ticks (shorter -- better) between decays, and then vonneumannize.

asciilifeform: correct

asciilifeform: quite possibly we have usg/ru/etc. Official nyook-paranoia (detectors everywhere) mania to thank for the cheap lyso.

asciilifeform: possibly a few 100Mb/s.

asciilifeform: (no external gamma source)

asciilifeform: just sittin' there.

asciilifeform: and each one is good for, by my current reckoning, a coupla MB/s of entropy.

asciilifeform: i was floored

asciilifeform: ikr?

asciilifeform: ( a few %+ )

asciilifeform: jurov: put it near something warm.

asciilifeform: jurov: sorta

asciilifeform: in other noose, i have a quote from chinese crystal grower, 3x3x10mm LYSO crystals @ ~8 usd ea.

asciilifeform: but still

asciilifeform: (hm, that paste got munged)

asciilifeform: ' << neato

asciilifeform: would exceed this value 50.00 percent of the times.

asciilifeform: '8.000000 bits per byte ... randomlyerror 0.00 percent ...

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, mod6 ^ ?

asciilifeform: speaking of which, any answer from dh author ?

asciilifeform: ( 'weakness lottery' in the 'hungrier' stats. )

asciilifeform: looks pretty typical ^

asciilifeform: not landscaped, but place came with a bunch

asciilifeform: them squirrels aren't eating rubbish, no.

asciilifeform: how's that

asciilifeform: why would cat not eat'em

asciilifeform: ( then again, i have no accurate idea, perhaps without cats it would be wholly unmanageable )

asciilifeform: i have half dozen living in the underbrush here and they dun seem to make any palpable dent in the tree rat problem

asciilifeform: i gotta borrow this d00d's cat

asciilifeform: i dun need to know what lincoln had for breakfast every day of his life, to say 'scum'.

asciilifeform: because assessing scummitude -- of man, or entire empire -- does not require 'eating the whole egg'.

asciilifeform: it, as mircea_popescu likes to say, 'does not prevail!111'

asciilifeform: incidentally this was the very substance of , iirc, nixon's argument to somebody re why he ought to bow. 'you don't have access to the mega-seekritz, how can you know that i am scum'

asciilifeform: just as mircea_popescu didn't care to bow to brezhnev. ( regardless of how fragmentary was his picture of how -- precisely -- brezhnev's palace decisionmaking conveyor worked. )

asciilifeform: i ain't gonna. period.

asciilifeform: the alternative is what, exactly ? bow and to suck the cock of his holiness obummer ?

asciilifeform: ( speaking of squirrel, apparently just about everything has a www 'fandom'. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BQmuW03-g8 << BingoBoingo ! )

asciilifeform: possible that already.

asciilifeform: ( it was surprising in vs . mice! not in the absolute. rodents are pretty interesting imho. )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in point of fact i dealt with mice for years and have plenty of respect.

asciilifeform: we're talking of deterministic machine, neh.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the q of 'live there people sufficiently non-stupid to make alternative' is separate from 'is there alternative'

asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform is in the process of exterminating some squirrels and finding them to be surprisingly clever )

asciilifeform: for that, brain of squirrel suffices.

asciilifeform: but sadly no.

asciilifeform: i can see how mircea_popescu might like to imagine that it does.

asciilifeform: classical education gives you emulator-ready vm image of obummer's brain ?!

asciilifeform: in meatdom -- none.

asciilifeform: 'meat' methods in comp engineering are not objectionable because 'meat methods', approximations, but because there is ALTERNATIVE there.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: e.g. i've not been chums with obummer. but know a bit what it is like to live in obummerdom.

asciilifeform: to an extent ☟︎

asciilifeform: it'd depend on how he runs his god-king-dom, neh ?

asciilifeform: there sure was an empire.

asciilifeform: spring of 2003.

asciilifeform: 'In the Spring of 2003, J. Michael Bailey...'

asciilifeform: excused how ?

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: the pistol -- does not.

asciilifeform: the one where the latter weapon is 'ecologically' catastrophic, in that it fattens the empire.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu does not see diff b/w 'getting' a d00d shot with mircea_popescu's very long hand, vs campaigning to have d00d declared 'enemy of the people' with kgb anon denunciations ?

asciilifeform: not kgb's.

asciilifeform: because with OWN hands.

asciilifeform: shooting's a-ok.

asciilifeform: ( i read his b00k, but have ~0 position on his crackpottery 1 way or another. this is about something quite else. )

asciilifeform: read link re what conway did/does to bailey.

asciilifeform: ratted ? then -- rat.

asciilifeform: every serious flavour of european had this concept. 'you just don't ~do~ that.' 'you don't rat to kgb.'

asciilifeform: doesn't compartmentalize.

asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's book, vaviloving is a mortal sin.

asciilifeform: who doesn't want to -- obviously, i can't make'em. but asciilifeform goes, rate -1 conway, genderactivister.

asciilifeform: i was specifically referring to 'after that, i had reason to doubt conway, and this projects backwards in time'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: forget the jewwishwoman sense of the word, public discredit

asciilifeform: when you 'no longer certain who you are dealing with'

asciilifeform: 'discredit' is the mental equiv. of negrate, 'set bozo bit', a very personal matter.

asciilifeform: not rly, not intellectual playing field

asciilifeform doesn't grasp

asciilifeform: aha, it was in a recent one

asciilifeform: and does indeed discredit.

asciilifeform: i bring it in, because imho the entire conflict does not look good for ~either~

asciilifeform: 'brought a knife to gun fight'

asciilifeform: this did not help v & co's life expectancies when ~they~ decided to politically battle.

asciilifeform: also of interest possibly to mircea_popescu is that l & co worked on 'practical' items, how to optimize wheat, potato. v & co worked on flies.

asciilifeform: writing denunciations on the opponents etc.