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mircea_popescu: deadweasel i don't really keep very close track
deadweasel: great post. have your readers increased in the last few months? any data on that?
KRS1: the kind that stinks afterwards
mircea_popescu: that's the true sign of a good fucking.
KRS1: i bet many a rectum are sore this morning
deadweasel: ah thx
ezdiy: gribble, dont beat the dead horse
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
ezdiy: the resemblance of bitcoin to religious cults is certainly here
mircea_popescu: yeah, keiser is the polar opposite, inasmuch as clues go.
ZedsterX: well couldn't have done any worse the current person on that throne
ezdiy: max kaiser the polar opossite
ezdiy: preaching bad things for bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i used to be but i was just not very good at it.
mircea_popescu: do you know how many jesuses we've had to date ?
ezdiy: kinda like max kaiser being the jesus preaching light of tomorrow, and mircea_popescu the evil guy
ezdiy: maybe bitcoin will transition from cult of getrichquick to cult of personality
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: i think the phrase is "wording"
ZedsterX: they must happy with the spot moved a bit
mircea_popescu: ZedsterX it's not lieing if you say stuff that's not true
ZedsterX: it is kinda funny that on gox's twitter they say don't panic network maintance then 8 minutes later we are under ddos
mircea_popescu: i've added it for the ages.
mircea_popescu: MJR_ thanks. http://trilema.com/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/#comment-92701
MJR_: yes, most of you now think of getting screwed as getting "goxxed" but i can make this look good
ezdiy: see that right there
ezdiy: for two hours in the next 12 to 24hrs
ezdiy: ZedsterX: translation: maintainance takes much longer than expected, but lets play we're the victim here.
MJR_: LOL, keep reloading it eventually will get there
error4733: yep MJT i can't open the link
MJR_: (they actually claim that they caused the panic sale due to how much volume increased)
ZedsterX: sorry if thats a repost
MJR_: we were directly responsible for a panic that resulted in a drop of over 50%...we are just that good
MJR_: the egos on these guys...
error4733: almost the same in 2012 ?
ezdiy: kudoz to their copywriter
ezdiy: i think mtgox pr money is well spent
MJR_: cuz obvs they are teh best...l33t
MJR_: this is their "PR" from yesterday
MJR_: To give you an idea of how impressive things were here are some numbers that we would love to share with you guys: - The number of trades executed tripled in the last 24hrs. - The number of new account opened went from 60k for March alone to 75k new account created for the first few days of April! We now have roughly 20,000 new accounts created each day.
mircea_popescu: i like that word, it clearly shows what's needed for making people smarter.
mircea_popescu: i hope that smarted.
MJR_: ah, congrats to him, i hope
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.50125, Best ask: 141.57000, Bid-ask spread: 1.06875, Last trade: 141.57000, 24 hour volume: 247211.87558680, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 174.53931
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
ezdiy: (its the small print that fraudulent costs are passed on you, since uh, its 3d and secure, thus cant be stolen)
ezdiy: punkman: thats what 3d-secure is for
punkman: or maybe the merchant should fine Visa for letting their cards get stolen
mircea_popescu: this to go with the nutella earlier
Namworld: It's the easiest way to tax merchants on handling complaints.
mircea_popescu: "Police in New Jersey are on the hunt for the criminal behind the theft of $100,000 of hamburger patties"
ezdiy: ie you'll not survive the outrageous fees (supposedly up to $250) if you cant filter abuse
Namworld: Oh, from Visa's point of view, sure, they should
Namworld: the merchant should get a huge fine IF it is found they frauded someone.
ezdiy: they're to motivate to filter out fraudulent customers
mircea_popescu: if i ran visa everyone to ever lose a card would be fined $500
mircea_popescu: yes thery should.
Namworld: the merchant shouldn't get the fine...
MJR_: hi there
punkman: yes the merchant gets a fine for each chargeback
ezdiy: punkman: sure the chargeback dont get through, the fraud rate is like 0.1-3% tops
ezdiy: punkman: we're talking ultimate costs
Scrat: I had to do the PCI compliance thing once, had to tick gems such as "- you regularly run antivirus scans on your servers"
punkman: which they don't let through
ezdiy: and then you have guys like ccbill
mircea_popescu: "all you never cared to know about idiotic topic #345789348975 and therefore you didn't ever ask"
punkman: you know what's a fun read, those 500 page Visa PDFs explaining all you ever wanted to know about credit cards
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: in average, its supposedly about 20% (cant find the source atm, but i assume you'll get similiar number if you google hard)
mircea_popescu: or you're fucked, in which they're closer to 100%
mircea_popescu: there is no system in this world with 20% chargeback rates. either you have a working system and chargebacks are a fraction of a percent
ezdiy: pizzaman1337: we're talking btc/fiat exchanges
pizzaman1337: you don't have to get fiat in between p2p exchanges - you could settle in btc
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: well, assuming there is ripple for pp/cc
punkman: you can't have 20% chargeback rate, they shut you down
ezdiy: thanks to carders
ezdiy: and you have to subsidize that
ezdiy: simply, people being anonymous means that 20% of them will turn out to be scumbags
mircea_popescu: there's things they can do and things they can't do
mircea_popescu: gesell no, just to separate trading engine.
taub: maybe ripple can help in this? getting money into the exchanges
ezdiy: but might be worth to some people
ezdiy: its 20% tax on fiat in/out
ezdiy: you basically need some kind of "jew bankers", and assuming the escrow fraud to manipulate the market
ezdiy: actually there are sound proposal for true p2p exchanges
gesell: yeah, gox should switch to the PGP protocol for all orders :)
gesell: mircea_popescu: thanks for the post. finally someone giving numbers
mircea_popescu: ie, better than me.
mircea_popescu: also i explained what it is and why it should be done, but tards like tux think tjhey know shit
mircea_popescu: well... mpex is the only one doing that, and i ain't jewish
Scrat: at least jew bankers know to isolate their website from their trading system
gesell: im sure he's going to say something big any time now ;)
mircea_popescu: lol taub
taub: they dont know jack about anything, im tired of the ameteurish nature of all of this :(
taub: gesell: that is their faulty engine design, and i predicted this like two weeks ago
mircea_popescu: he could in principle be talking about that or anything else.
mircea_popescu: in the paralel if relative distant universe where tux knows what he's talking about
gesell: as i was saying yesterday, if each execution of an order requires gox to recaculate a bunch of things such as your current fee bracket, in addition to properly matching, then mangification at the cpu level is possible. and another argument for throttling oders per second per user until gox finds solutions
gesell: Do you suppose what MagicalTux is talking about are all the massive 0.01 orders?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.76500, Best ask: 148.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.23500, Last trade: 143.00000, 24 hour volume: 247104.13417462, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 175.50181
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Scrat: [12:32] <bit14> @MagicalTux: wouldn't the front end and execution engine be on different machines?