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unbalanced: jurov: the bitcoinforums.com SMF Trader System stuff, feedback, etc... is P2P exchange the idea of that too?
gribble: MtGox lag is 49.296595 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0987898244278 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
unbalanced: Well, it's close. Still acts as a trustee... hrm.
unbalanced: I saw that a year or so ago and forgot.
gribble: krs-1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 3 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <KRS-1> this would be a scotch day
unbalanced: jurov: ah, bitcoin.de is exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of, thanks!
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.81830, Best ask: 146.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.18170, Last trade: 146.00000, 24 hour volume: 247441.18891750, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 259.98000, 24 hour vwap: 169.88239
pizzaman1337: was that it? gosh
mircea_popescu: According to a Businessweek source, Foursquare netted just $2 million in revenue in 2012
gesell: forgot we dont have \n in these parts
deadweasel: the infrastructure to do so successfully doesn't seem to exist yet...
kakobrekla: well the part that bother me most is 1h lag and hft
deadweasel: i see. well, cheers to caching!
Bugpowder: wants to stir some shit
kakobrekla: i havent even read it through
bitesak: but you had to get in relatively early
deadweasel: i thought bought was not serving an $avg
deadweasel: i don't know how they did.... jurov, where did you get your vwap yesterday?
deadweasel: i must say, it was very nice to have the passthroughs operating normally yesterday.
Bugpowder: maybe I will undercut the bot and sell for 1.05
mircea_popescu: if it wants to charge over 1 btc per who am i to argue.
mircea_popescu: prolly just take out those lines next month.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: So are you going to tweak the mpoebot so it doesn't sell calls for over 1BTC?
mircea_popescu: or are those cumulative all time ?
mjr_: shhh, no facts right now...i want to pick up sdice at .001 ;)
mjr_: time to sell everyone, who cares the price
pizzaman1337: yeah, it seems pretty clear that the problem is not that they ran out of money
mircea_popescu: looking at that list pizzaman1337 it seems they mostly have profits ?
unbalanced: "Fire! Run for the exits..."
Diablo-D3: time to sell your stock
pizzaman1337: I don't think that's possible, the severs that handle the transactions aren't public-facing, right?
unbalanced: Are they being DDOS'd?
deadweasel: unbalanced: go build a tabbed version. tabs for payment method, tabs for gambling, dev for hire, etc...
jurov: iirc bitcoin.de works that way
gesell: a user could say they want to sell for 133713371337.00 USD
gesell: wtf is this order on the ask book: u'stamp': u'1360289097384960', u'amount_int': u'100000000', u'price': 13370133701337, u'price_int': u'1337013370133700096', u'amount': 1
unbalanced: What do you guys think of Ripple? Does it accomplish this?
unbalanced: I see the orderbook is JSON, that's good
unbalanced: (and the dudes selling code or the gambling links are tucked aside into other tabs)
TradeFortress: could do one for each payment method through
unbalanced: e.g. have the bids and the asks up like a "normal" exchange but when you transact, you're not trading on an exchange, you're dealing direct with the counterparty after vetting their WOT rating, etc.
unbalanced: That is an excellent start... but only a start. I guess that's the logical one to build on though.
mircea_popescu: like that ?
unbalanced: Putting bitcoin stocks/bonds/options aside for a sec, if I just think of buying and selling bitcoins P2P... How do we put a web interface on distributed trust?
mircea_popescu: something along the lines of, "if you're too drunk to stand no way you're driving"
mircea_popescu: i expect people who don't to have somebody who does do their investi9ng for them.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect users to grok commandline gpg.
unbalanced: ...says the guy who expects users to grok commandline gpg
mircea_popescu: person to person bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: i don't honestly think we need much more or anything other than this.
pizzaman1337: yeah, what's the volume on localbitcoins anyway?
unbalanced: MP, other assembled Brainiacs... Is the only alternative to Mt. Gox to switching to other traditional (centralized) exchanges, one of which will swell to 80% eventually? Or is decentralized exchange somehow possible?
gribble: A market order to buy 3000 bitcoins right now would take 508573.6610 USD and would take the last price up to 174.9900 USD, resulting in an average price of 169.5246 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 108.0862 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 3000 bitcoins right now would net 437428.6661 USD and would take the last price down to 140.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 145.8096 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 74.3326 seconds
TradeFortress: EskimoBob, you can also trade $0.001 USD via API but not via site :P
pgp: eskimobob - orderbook is only avail through api... go to clarkmoody.com to see it
pgp: right, that's what I thought, but #bitcoin-market seemed to be chugging along...
mircea_popescu: pgp it was down for half the day
pgp: anyone know of a historical repository for this data that doesn't require me to grab individual exchange json's from bitcoincharts for tiny intervals that won't return most of the time anyway?
gesell: Scrat:could always revert to perl but then i'd probably start puking involuntarily
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.13873, Best ask: 163.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.86127, Last trade: 162.13873, 24 hour volume: 247191.76866132, 24 hour low: 105.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00000, 24 hour vwap: 172.81754
Scrat: it went down a few times
gesell: sturles: feel free to change it. i just got lazy and actually executing python from the command line was total hell to figure out. (cant really do a "if-else" on it)
sturles: Right.. You know it would be simpler to just use python for all of this? Or awk? At least give both sed commands to the first instance, instead of forking twice just for that!
pgp: anybody know how the ticker on #bitcoin-market works? seems like the most reliable ticker out there, no?
gesell: curl -s https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/depth/full | python -c 'import sys,json;data=json.loads(sys.stdin.read()); print data["data"]["bids"]' | awk -v RS='{' '{print}' | tr -d '[]{}' | egrep "price_int': u'[1-9][0-9][0-9]{6}'," | egrep "amount': [1-9][0-9]{3}\." | awk '{print $2 $5 $6 $9 $10}' | sed "s/u'/ /g" | sed "s/[',]//g" | sort -n | cut -b 2-11 -b 18- && date +%s
gesell: how to whale watch the asks on the orderbook:
ThickAsThieves: or do they need to be decrypted?
ThickAsThieves: none of those passes work
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves never was needed. just, if anyone wanted to add
MJR_: if you look at it from the "i kan haz monies" perspective
MJR_: there is nothing anyone "should" do, they do whatever they want...the market sorts it out, but there are smarter and dumber things to do
mircea_popescu: as long as they can afford to pay all fines bitcoin may throw at them for it.
mircea_popescu: the beauty of bitcoin : nobody has to listen.
error4733: mine was un test !! dont send any money
mircea_popescu: error4733 pm me the sikrit for that one
error4733: you need to make the sum, to see if its the right
ThickAsThieves: maybe thats the anonymous joke
mircea_popescu: did someone change the algo ?
mircea_popescu: not a single address i generate works. what the fuck is this ?!
error4733: when you DL the wep page to make paper wallet offline
mircea_popescu: fuck this doesn't workl either
error4733: its the SH1
ThickAsThieves: what is this? 1d5951f6a04dd5a287ac925da4e626870ee58d60
ThickAsThieves: or, just the domain
mircea_popescu: ok i can't get a usable address with brainwallet.org. all the addies it outputs are broken
gesell: mtgox might just be ddos'ing themselves so that all that new fiat coming into the exchange via wire for new users that wont want to spend it on btc anymore can be put in a low interest bank account by gox to make them rich
mircea_popescu: is the site broken ?
error4733: can u double check the address ?
KRS1: mircea popescu did call it spot on..for a while now. sure goes along with what i've mostly noticed in life: too much of a good thing is usually not a "good thing".
mircea_popescu: ima send them the brain wallet and publish the results.
mircea_popescu: if anyone want to contribute to the 1btc fund 1KSHjG4etUA1gBdpKRecoRbmxv4N2TLyFM
taub: well time will come :(
taub: or that he doesnt take it seriously
taub: i think its kinda funny how butthurt lew rockwell is about bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: i can tell ya change password is broken in gox right now
gesell: anyone done whale watching on the orderbooks recently?
Scrat: looking at the emails, probably
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
kakobrekla: too late this time