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pigeons: i bought some more a few weeks ago and sold
them all as well
pigeons: i bought shares in mpoe and was able
to sell for a lot more
than i bought
them for at ipo
bVector: I had buy orders in and he cleared it at lowest price of
the
trading range
bVector: he's manually clearing his futures
to artificially bring
the price down
to what he
thinks is fair price
bVector: mircea_popescu:
this asshat at icbit is a market manipulator just like you said
Lyspooner: there were several people who called it a bubble at 70, say. Are
those people wrong? Why should we only remember
the people who got it right, like
tiberiusiv?
ThickAsThieves: i
think a lot of us just didnt realize it would happen on
that exact day
Lyspooner: calling it "massive irrational speculation" is very easy
to do in hindsight
Lyspooner: mircea_popescu, what index do your options settle
to again? linky
punkman: so exante.eu is not retarded
then?
evoorhees: as settled as one can be with
this crazy market :)
mircea_popescu: seems eerly similar
to my
taste. judge decided he didn't do anything
mircea_popescu: you know about his entire prior conviction
thing right ?
Lyspooner: i don't
think he was conceited or deceitful (in bitcoinland)
Lyspooner: Bruce Wagner doesn't belong in
that list
mircea_popescu: funny how
the btc
that was exchange-crazed flows back
to investments.
Lyspooner: i'm having a very difficult
time buying more coins at 250
mod6: heheh. im late
too
the party
too. so don't feel bad. :]
topace: Lyspooner:
thats why we're all here
Lyspooner: i came here
to watch mircea_popescu get mad at mt gox
mircea_popescu: "Looks like MtGox not only froze
trading but also bitcoin withdrawals, I've withdrawn 4 hours ago prior
to
trade being stopped and even
though it shows
the withdraw in my account,
there is no record of it in
the blockchain whatsoever."
mod6: gox
trading haulted until 2AM UTC?
splnkr: i like
this on
the Mt Gox FB page 7 hours ago "Maintenance Over however we are now under a DDoS attack."
gribble: EskimoBob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <EskimoBob> look like
this party i over
Doffx: Great, now you wont be able
to bring your phone on
the plane either.
imsaguy: phones
that hack planes = not dangerous
bgupta: allthough mtgox perhaps will do
that for
them
bgupta: ok
the govt doesn't have
to kill it kill it.. just needs
to prevent it from becoming a
threat
imsaguy: the 'current price' is whatever price you're willing
to buy or selli
tat
pandnh4: hi, does anyone have a good reading on current btc price as mtgox is not
trading?
Doffx: I was more
trying
to point out alternatives
to just forking
the chain with a 51% attack.
TomServo: ThickAsThieves:
there are a number of ways
to avoid
that
joecool: ThickAsThieves: you should send
them a warning back about
tampering with
http connections
Doffx: I was saying
that
the government could help do
that bgupta
Doffx: Now BTC is gambling? I
thought BTC and gambling were different.
bgupta: Doffx: Make people feel stupid for making a bad choice,
that burn is enough
to kill BTC.
bgupta: Doffx said it
ThickAsThieves
joecool: oh yeah
that same burn killed gambling
too
bgupta: listen it will be a lot easier
to get 100mn budget
than
to pass a law outtlawing bitcoin..
The problem with outlawing bitcoin, is
that it gives bitcoin some credability and noteriety, and wouldn't kill it..
Doffx: Make people feel stupid for making a bad choice,
that burn is enough
to kill BTC.
Doffx: I
think
there is a long battle ahead, I dont know who
the victor will be but
the fight is just beggining.
bgupta: Guessing
they'd have
to push
through NSA, or some other black box budget
Doffx: I would
think
they could do very quickly, I
think
they would rather just use it as a
tool
to outlaw crytpo coins period
though
jborkl_: it would
take 10 years just
to get
the idea signed off on
Doffx: Lol,
they need approval?
ThickAsThieves: and how do
they get approval for
that kind of spending?
bgupta: guessing
the design and prototype could certainly be developed for < $500,000.
bgupta: So how much fiat would it
take for a professional organization (think corp/gov)
to develop an inexpensive mining ASIC, mass produce it, and run enough
to get 51%? (Guessing
the biggest issue would be
time.) And what real defense does our network have against such an attack?
jcpham: mircea_popescu i have just now stumbled on your
twitter
Scrat: centrally issued currency no
thanks
splnkr: but yeah
the Ripple apporach maybe could work
to make better exchange algorithms
mjr_: though
think of it..."we crashed
the market back in 2011, and we did it again in 2013, care
to
trade?"
splnkr: if's for
the bills and janes of
the world
that all owe each other small sums…in other words personas
they used
to design
the service
that don't really exist =P
mjr_: not even a hack
this
time...
pigeons: hahaha like
that ever matters
mjr_: from what i can see...not one
thing has materially changed about bitcoin in
the last few days...
error4733: no yet, but
the all idea behind is nice
mjr_: hmmm...irrational exuberance, and
then irrational panic
splnkr: well ripple is cool for what it is, but it isn't "digital cash" in
the same way bitcoin is either
splnkr: but
there needs
to be some critical mass for
there
to be volume
splnkr: we can see
the weaknesses of centralization at
this point i'd say....
splnkr: what would
the ideal exchange situation be like? right now it's like we have regional and fragmented and scattered ones
mjr_: ugh...i almost wouldn't mind
the illiquidity if
they would just go away
ThickAsThieves: at least we know
there's a good chance he'll die painfully from a hear attack
splnkr: in other news, MtGox USD Coupon codes are no longer a
thing
mjr_: i wonder whats going on at
that office right now
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so
then not quite as down as all
that ?
Namworld: ok, who wants
to buy some puts and at what price?
Scrat: unless amphipod is
trolling
Scrat: there was a gox
trade just now
mircea_popescu: splnkr yea, for some values of a lot
that are nothing at all.
bgupta: Might even be able
to get a 1U server with 128GB
bgupta: the said
they were upgrading
to a 128GB RAM machine..
that's a 2U server
pgp: commodore 64
to and apple IIe