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mircea_popescu: there definitely are going to be gaps.
mircea_popescu: if you actually want to buy/sell, wait for one of those and do so.
mircea_popescu: if it catches a feed it quotes (it has multiple times today)
mircea_popescu: just, sitting there and hitting f5 on the mpex page is scarcely a good use of tyour time.
mircea_popescu: and for the record i've not lost faith in bitcoin or anything.
KRS1: i see orders and sells at given prices are those the same as the charts..i feel stupid for asking this
mircea_popescu: it's the fact those fuckwits can't keep trading orderly.
mircea_popescu: it's not the price that's the issue.
mircea_popescu: that's really besides the point.
Guest42002: you warned us to stop buying at 130
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE CHARTS DONT WORK. thart's why.
mircea_popescu: you're asking me why the bot doesn't quote.
mircea_popescu: Guest42002 no dude. i am just trying to illustrate to you kinda how pointless your approach is.
ThickAsThieves: friedcat doesnt need to deal with a bunch of usb hubs
ThickAsThieves: tahts the point
Guest42002: mircea_popescu: so you havve lost faith in bitcoin because no one listens to you?
Guest42002: ThickAsThieves: but are they going to be sold onthe market?
error4733: ThickAs... TAKE MY BITCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIN
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin mostly consists of retards, MtGox is a piece of shit, nothing useful can be made in this space and if you try people will ask you why is everyone else retarded"
ThickAsThieves: its like the perfect solution to 51% concerns too
mircea_popescu: i guess it will have to be revised. som,ethiong like
mircea_popescu: Guest42002 "Last revision : February the 6th, 2013."
Guest42002: lol oh mircea_popescu in the fact it says a couple of hours at most?
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure friedcat can ever be doubted again after this, now i'm a fanboi
Guest42002: mircea_popescu: so why aren't you troubleshooting?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 67.80000, Best ask: 68.90000, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 68.90000, 24 hour volume: 388885.47870841, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.85309
pizzaman1337: and when stuff is happening is when people want to trade
mircea_popescu: the web is the web.
Guest42002: yes, but the bot is always up usually, he's been down a lot more :(
mircea_popescu: the facvt that it doesn't answer to you still doesn't mean it's not answering to everyone else.
mircea_popescu: the fact that a site answers to you doens't mean it answers everyone else.
mircea_popescu: but you have to understand how the web works.
Guest42002: but you run the bot
mircea_popescu: Guest42002 probably charts failed to reply to it
ThickAsThieves: check it out! Gox needs to turn fees back on
Guest42002: mircea_popescu: why is the bot not quoting?
ThickAsThieves: now watch these bid walls dodge the knife
mircea_popescu: bitcoin ppl are totally retarded wtf.
mircea_popescu: and all other exchanges slightly under what they were.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174549.msg1816764#msg1816764 this was 6 hours ago.
ThickAsThieves: no to 60
taub: it had a chance to bounce from 70 to 99, but didnt happen :)
ThickAsThieves: no one wants to buy into asks
ThickAsThieves: ugh, this is gonna get worse
Tritonio: well i theory that was a loan, not BITBOND bonds. I was actually looking for some of the people that actually had BITBOND. The ones that are supposed to be contacted by amazingrando to discuss about BITBOND-ASIC. I was going to ask if they ever got contacted by him about that.
pigeons: Tritonio: i think Namworld holds a bit and amazingrando owes him a bit
mircea_popescu: buncha kids from the retarded kindergarten got into a boeing, are having fun
mircea_popescu: pgp they have absoluterly no idea what any of the buttons do,.
pgp: just drop it .2% or something - making it free just makes things worse
taub: who knows when they shut it down again for "cooldown"
KRS1: folks trade at gox and stop trading at btce
MJR_: based on whatever metric you care to use
MJR_: its super simple, you need to filter
KRS1: yeah, weird that it works out that way
MJR_: do the exact opposite of what would make sense
KRS1: maybe we're done for today
mircea_popescu: ya they've accomplished it
MJR_: see...this is typical gox
KRS1: what mp does this all point to ya think
Scrat: inb4 gox PR boasting about their new record volume
gribble: A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 72536.2371 USD and would take the last price up to 72.8415 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.5362 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 53.2205 seconds
gribble: A market order to buy 200 bitcoins right now would take 14406.8631 USD and would take the last price up to 72.4000 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.0343 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 45.5410 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.50000, Best ask: 71.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39000, Last trade: 71.50000, 24 hour volume: 382755.81915148, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.07081
gribble: There are currently 30163.221 bitcoins demanded at or over 57.0 USD, worth 1904811.61423 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.5855 seconds
pgp: they have to turn the fees back on! this is totally artificial
gribble: There are currently 52162.042 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 3057415.9691 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.3262 seconds
gribble: There are currently 113783.17 bitcoins demanded at or over 32.0 USD, worth 5511237.11861 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds
ThickAsThieves: we need whales to take action
ThickAsThieves: but bots are making too much money from the people who arent
ThickAsThieves: i think humans are waiting for a shift before taking action
ThickAsThieves: mo, would you mind click the Buy $1m button a couple times?
pgp: my feeling is that it's getting ready to break to the downside, though...
ThickAsThieves: ugh we need the fees back
pgp: i think so...
ThickAsThieves: HFT bots taking over?
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 23 hours, 57 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.95835, Best ask: 73.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02165, Last trade: 73.95835, 24 hour volume: 378171.43939828, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.20200
damientrog: for dollars are euros that you know are being inflated heavily
damientrog: already 2 bastards that didn't pay their transactions on bitcoin.de
pgp: gox market is behaving very strangely... definately something unusual/artificial... Call me crazy, but just not passing the smell test for me right now...
damientrog: some must made a ton of money out of this histeria
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 73.80000, Best ask: 73.80001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 73.80001, 24 hour volume: 376604.16676873, 24 hour low: 54.25000, 24 hour high: 140.00000, 24 hour vwap: 83.23934
pgp: gold getting SMACKED today...
ThickAsThieves: wall st about to pop too maybe
pgp: the whole thing is soooo fragmented right now...
splnkr: cool pgp just to be clear when i said 'people can use them' i meant people can go from one to the other and not have a whole new learning curve again for the basic deposit/withdrawal processes
pgp: splnkr: yes... I am a big advocate of such a thing...
ThickAsThieves: no one makes that many
ThickAsThieves: these arent mistakes they are making
splnkr: what we need is a decentralized set of regional exchanges that are all "glued" together in terms of fund transfer, with standardized API's, etc, so arbitrage can be performed and people can use them
ThickAsThieves: at this point we can only call them dumb for so many offenses, it has crossed into intentional
splnkr: hmmm..all this spasmodic behavior by gox is kind of a testament to the folly of meddling with money markets, which is what i thought bitcoin was designed to discourage
pgp: also with no fees, market making bots can just flood the system with orders, making things worse...
pgp: makes real price discovery that much harder
ThickAsThieves: itll take aggressive action to push it in any direction
pgp: mp: i think you're right
ThickAsThieves: nasically no matter what level the price reaches, itll be worked back and forth by a $10 spread
MJR_: no BARRIER to manipulation
mircea_popescu: they're trying to create the imprerssion volume is still there.
thestringdude: No manipulation is still there