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mircea_popescu: unbalanced_ the sexual barrier is there to repel the unthinking adults, not to cater to the teenagers.
mircea_popescu: it is the investors it repels and the speculators it attracts.
mircea_popescu: huge volatility is exactly the same : in spite of the fact it mostly burns the speculators,
unbalanced_: I respect the math/investment opinions, so I'm not going anywhere. I could just do without you playing to the mentality of teenage boys while you simultaneously express distaste for unsophisticated noobs (a high proportion of which are likely that same demographic).
mircea_popescu: in spite of it being mostly the mobsters who are getting murdered, it is the peasants who move out of the town, and the mobsters who move in.
mircea_popescu: now, with the mob there comes sudden and striong social mobility, and also a bunch of murders.
mircea_popescu: consider a town, and consider the mob moves in.
taub: i mean your job should be to run the exchange, not really worry about volatility
mircea_popescu: let me illustrate this point, and i won't even use tits.
taub: never heard that before mp
unbalanced_: I want to see bitcoin and sophisticated discussion of BTC assets get more widespread. This channel is the best their is but cuts off half the population.
mircea_popescu: even so i am more worried by things such as sdice going to 75 then to 29 for no apparent reason
taub: mpex has the highest volume in bitcoin stocks already doesnt it?
mircea_popescu: unbalanced_ everyone, as in, the people who took btc to 260 when i told them not to go over 130 ? why does one want this everyone muddling throuhg ?
unbalanced_: Aw I said true before I knew we were going to sextown.
mircea_popescu: stretchmarks are actually worse than no growth at all.
mircea_popescu: the surest way for her NOT being a successful fotomodel at 19 is if her tits grow too fast.
mircea_popescu: take the case of the twelve year old as an illustrative example.
mircea_popescu: there is a problem of growthspeed which is not too well understood, especially not by the average (which is to say business illiterate) entrepreneur these days.
unbalanced_: Agreed, I think you're just one $15 home page template away from being at the top of everyone's lists when it comes to BTC assets.
mircea_popescu: i think it shall prevail.
mircea_popescu: of course there's a lot of friction to the model, but
pgp: not that MPEX isn't real life...
mircea_popescu: and hopefulyl they get some sense/advice in the package.
pgp: idiots go to members to trade, where fees get marked up but no upfront fee - it's how it work irl
pgp: non-trivial up front fee for exchange membership (which should be limited to non-idiots), but also low marginal costs for trading...
mircea_popescu: (not the time spent learning, the time spent making the proofs that you'cve learned)
mircea_popescu: when you go to get your degree you are basically paying a fee for this priviledge, equal to the value of your time you put into making the papers
pgp: I think that model is correct.
mircea_popescu: it's an exam. yet another of life's exams most fail to pass.
mircea_popescu: i havce no idea why people represent this in terms of them buying something.
taub: i'd take one for 10 maybe
mircea_popescu: just so they can cringe when it's $500k+ in a year or two.
mircea_popescu: haha something tells me people cringing at $7500 membership a week ago are still not running to get it at 60% discount
pgp: but then again MPEX exchange membership for $1000 USD would be reward enough...
error4733: wtf is this :) ? free forecast ?
gribble: watching for another drop to 90s, then rising to 105-108 | targets: 108, 110-113, 120, 130, 138-148, 160 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 10:47 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 51 minutes and 26 seconds ago
pgp: anyway - I think short-term trend is lower myself... need to retest bottom
pgp: idiots - not in their nature to behave...
mircea_popescu: maybe idiots behave and we have a nice slope going to 130 till summer.
gribble: There are currently 35059.129 bitcoins offered at or under 125.0 USD, worth 3926457.98079 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.9841 seconds
gribble: There are currently 36500.533 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 3094909.86845 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds
Framedragger: and i'm trying to trade goods over coin, it hurts the brain
pgp: overall trend, though?
pgp: prediction for today?
Framedragger: it simply sounds nice on one's tongue, is all
error4733: yes but if i sold my car i thinks i get 12bt haha
error4733: i wish have like 100btc for fun to play with gribble
mircea_popescu: amusingly, gribble's kinda better than max keiser.
error4733: ;;eightball will btc reach 50$ this week ?
error4733: ;;eightball will btc reach 150$ this week ?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.72000, Best ask: 97.77700, Bid-ask spread: 1.05700, Last trade: 96.72000, 24 hour volume: 142297.15764338, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 105.40000, 24 hour vwap: 95.29939
gribble: rising to 105-108 | targets: 108, 110-113, 120, 130, 138-148, 160 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 7:45 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 43 seconds ago
ThickAsThieves: i think it might be trading, but not reporting
ThickAsThieves: calm before the storm?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.40118, Best ask: 95.95998, Bid-ask spread: 0.55880, Last trade: 95.48019, 24 hour volume: 156646.71403264, 24 hour low: 84.43689, 24 hour high: 109.99800, 24 hour vwap: 97.19479
mpexbot: thestringpuller: Error: There is no command "bid".
mpexbot: thestringpuller: Error: There is no command "bids".
mpexbot: thestringpuller: Error: There is no command "all".
mpexbot: thestringpuller: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
ThickAsThieves: just watched a few min of mtv video awards, wow that channel really fell apart huh?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: I am interested in the question of virile fucktopias because I am interested in "the science of the possible." that is, "the is" vs. the idiot "the ought" that most scholarship tends to be about.
mircea_popescu: whether it scales or not will decide how large a community can get, not whether it will be the norm or not.
mircea_popescu: this hidden-ness and the lack of systematic solutions are exactly why the "virile fucktopia" is the only solution.
asciilifeform: reminds me of a tale where Chinese peasants, shortly after the red victory, calmed down upon hearing that the Emperor has returned.
mircea_popescu: global warming is a useful "abstraction" if you're using it to get a dumbass neighbour to stop smoking out your pool.
mircea_popescu: depends on the purpose.
asciilifeform: but I still think the abstraction is a useful one.
mircea_popescu: there's no proof you have the mandate of heaven. nopr can ever be.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the original branch where we got lost is the proving.
asciilifeform: the scholar profession (vs scholarship per se) is really just embroidery on the fabric of society, like the palace mural-painting profession.
mircea_popescu: the pretense of the "educated" to access it is as fraudulent in today's cathedral as it was in the druid circle obviously.
mircea_popescu: kinda how the entire scholar profession developped.
asciilifeform: this subtle structure would appear to be hidden from king and slave alike.
mircea_popescu: even so. the subtle structure of the world remains inacessible. even if the girl does it with enthusiasm and art.
asciilifeform: so were they sucking with love?
asciilifeform: did you know that only the men with top marks in flight school were initially accepted into the Tokkotai (Kamikaze corps) ?
asciilifeform: but if she sucks with art and enthusiasm, perhaps that's all the proof one could hope for. Think Kamikazes instead of Chinese imperial auto-beheaders.
thestringpuller: did I really just come back to "getting a girl to suck your cock is no proof you're loved.
mircea_popescu: getting a girl to suck your cock is no proof you're loved.
mircea_popescu: what people do is no proof of what people are, in this sense.
mircea_popescu: no, my objection is that form is no substitute for function.
asciilifeform: well it matters, of course, if the front rank is a thousand blue blood knights, or three bums you've collected from a boozing den.
mircea_popescu: i don't think that implication works.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not so sure sepukku is such a bad example. you have one chance to do yourself in as one of us now that you can't continue living as one of us.
asciilifeform: but yes, if you can successfully order the front ranks to self-behead, you've probably got the Mandate of Heaven.
mircea_popescu: a, that's a pity. probably the best thing tyo come out of france
asciilifeform: terrifying the enemy
asciilifeform: or the Chinese emperor (forget which) who would order his front ranks to behead themselves on the start of a battle
asciilifeform: Seppuku is a bad example: the men ordered to do so generally faced the alternative of being beheaded like commoners (not to be confused with voluntary seppuku.)
mircea_popescu: maybe go the whole japanese mile and have him cut his own guts out
asciilifeform: you have a point in that analysis is vulgarizing. hence "the spartan speaks with his sword."
mircea_popescu: perhaps you just do it because it becomes clear the guy's a fuckwit.
asciilifeform: yes, but you do it for jollies/education-of-the-masses-by-the-cock, not because you feel that you have to.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, plugging the other guy has the virtue of keeping this putative aristocracy from complacency
mircea_popescu: perhaps. it does come out a rather vulgar thing as reduced by our conversation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: maybe the very definition of being an aristocrat is that you don't feel compelled to plug the other guys.
mircea_popescu: get moar gold but can't throw a party cause there's nobody to invite.
mircea_popescu: "get double the gold" da fuck is that. to do what, carry it luis de funes style ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps you're not. but the fellows behind the tinted windows, are.