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Bugpowder: people are scared of
that with BPA
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i can see a case for where whatever container leaks whatever poison in
the microwave but not otherwise.
Bugpowder: they just make water vibrate due
to
the excitation wavelength of H20
Bugpowder: microwaves don't change
the structure of water.
Bugpowder: what
the fuck are you guys
talking about
soypirate: i mean i'm not saying stand with your ball in front of one with
the door open...
soypirate: microwaves make water molecules rotate between
their natural magnetic poles really fast,
that produces heat.
The microwaves do not linger, nor do
they
travel more
than four feet.
jcpham: raytheon developed
the first microwave
jborkl: I know, just lo at
the myth
guruvan: they're regularly debunked
themselves
guruvan: turn brown like
they burned
guruvan: they destroy
the structure of food & water
mircea_popescu: don't frequent cafes
that use
them etc. i'm like
the mcirowave enemy.
jcpham: microwave
trips breaker if i'm bein ghonest
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder ya like a pizza oven. but
that's commercial power grid
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder:
the only exception is dryers
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder:
they're hardwired, so are hotwater heaters and large enough air conditioning and whatever else
that big
Diablo-D3: 2 more weeks until Im proven right? again? for
the 6th
time?
Diablo-D3: why are we
talking about BFL anyhow?
jborkl: no,
they said
the minirig will not be shipped as is
Diablo-D3: (electric driers being
the exception)
Diablo-D3: we dont have 240v sockets
typically
jcpham: surely bfl does intend
to ship a device drawing more
than 4kW
mircea_popescu: this is what you can do out of
the box pretty much. otherwise you have
to get on
the list for a
transform station being builrt
Diablo-D3: you need LESS copper as voltage goes up
to maintain
the same wattage
jcpham: i
think europe requires 380 or multiple 220v drops
jurov: you just need
thicker wires
mircea_popescu: and 380v
triphase at about 100+ amps, which you have
to install speciallly.
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder:
they'll work with your electric company
to get it done for you
jcpham: 4kw
tops but you aren't going
to be using 120v at
that point
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: btw, yes, due
to what
tesla is doing, you can now get higher end chargers installed
mircea_popescu: i was discussing normal house wiring. which is about 4kw
tops.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah but you were
trying
to put 6kw on it
jurov: i can't follow, where are
these kilowatts announced?
mircea_popescu: and 120 is i
think nomional max. you won't get it more
than you get 1mbps internet or w/e
Diablo-D3: you do realize
thats 45.6kw right?
jcpham: i've got 2 meters, 4 acres and 5 buildings and i
think i only have one 240 drop
to each meter
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3
there is no way you can draw 40kw off your apt grid right now.
Diablo-D3: I
think 120v 40a actually goes into
the circuit breaker box
though
jcpham: right
the opossite of what
they initially sold
jcpham: it's
to much. you have
to build
the facility
to house 8.8kW
Diablo-D3: its just going
to be fun
talking your electric company into doing it
jcpham: 240 works w/
the 80AMP
Diablo-D3: 120v in
the US is
typically 15a, 18a max
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I said into
the house, as in, for all
the cirucits
mircea_popescu: commercially you can get (easily) 380 volts and i
think it carries about 120 amps max
Diablo-D3: 380v
triphase can handle 6kw, it just depends entirely what your amperage is
Diablo-D3: you
told me volts and watts but not amps.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I
think you're missing
the concept
jcpham: well
the point is
the minirig was a consumer device but now it seems commercial
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 around here you can get 380V
triphase installed just on asking
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: pretty much you call up
the power company and ask
Diablo-D3: because
that might not pass federal requirements
jcpham: i
thought
the minirgis came in under 1.5
pgp: unless you can use it
to reduce you're heating bill in
the winter...
jborkl: you would also need a pretty big ventilation
to draw out
that heat
jcpham: apparently
the blockchain and mining is
totally opaque
Diablo-D3: its a persona made up by
the company
Diablo-D3: no one even listens
to
their shit anymore
jcpham: is
terrible don't read it
Namworld: oh wow...
the quote: "We don’t really know how
this coin is created. You can’t have a functional money without a basic
transparency."
Diablo-D3: 240v is usually what comes down off
the poles and
then its phase split into
two 120vs
jcpham: that's new service from
the electric co for most people
pgp: then we'll shart
to hear
the stories of how
the bfl asics catch on fire...
jborkl: 480v with a
transformer
jcpham: i bet i ask an electrician
tomorrow
though
jcpham: no clue what sort of support you'd need for
that
jcpham: more likely 220v
though
jcpham: it would need 7 power cords going
to maxxed out
terminal is a US home
jborkl: and
that is without a host
jborkl: people are going
to have
to deal with heat, power , proper cooling, babysitting
jborkl: just relaying
the news
jcpham: jborkl
that's an insane number for a minirig
jcpham: up front investment
to support power usage
kakobrekla: so when do
they pay
the 1k btc chairty bet?
jcpham: most US homes/places of business aren't wired for
that
jborkl: 8800w for a minirig, even
though
those are not shipping
jborkl: looks like it is going
to be approx 300w for a single, whenif
they show up
Namworld: I was recalling it because price was rising
too much in my
taste. Now I put it back available and people buy.
mircea_popescu: im not gonna. guy's entitled
to being stupid ocasionalyl, he has a name.
Namworld: people just want my BTC-BOND, do
they?