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asciilifeform: ( and i will note, all -- afaik -- implementations of bignumtron, fail this litmus )
asciilifeform: major sin.
asciilifeform: this is trickier than it appears, because you can't ever have a branch condition itself on a secret bit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: also ideally it'd work in constant cycles. ( asciilifeform is still thinking, on paper, how to make shifts work in fixed cycles . )
asciilifeform: 'what's the narrowest type this can be, and still work in all useful cases'
asciilifeform: this kind of thinking comes quickly with practice tho.
asciilifeform: given as it can go negative.
asciilifeform: you wouldn't actually want the exponent arg to be 'Integer' tho
asciilifeform: neato phf
asciilifeform: ( and to characters-are-bytes-are-characters. we had this thread also. )
asciilifeform: married to 8bitness.
asciilifeform: aha. except that if you go and try to build a c proggy for these, it will barf.
asciilifeform: i am no pro trishop, but bible and koran both were silent on what System.Storage_Unit oughta equal...
asciilifeform: there are boxes in orbit with weird (18b, say) 'bytes'.
asciilifeform: then of course there were the pdp
asciilifeform: microchip co's 'pic' lineup had systems with 12b bytes, 14...
asciilifeform: because it isn't the smallest operand on the box.
asciilifeform: aha. because it isn't.
asciilifeform: that'd be a machine attribute, not language.
asciilifeform: the default quantization of memory.
asciilifeform: them ain't bytes
asciilifeform: g77 certainly is married to the 8bit byte.
asciilifeform: which fortran'd that be
asciilifeform: i wonder if there is any other language, than cl and ada, in reasonably common use today, that does not presuppose 8-bit bytes.
asciilifeform: not so many (some, e.g. sbcl and cmucl, are 'blood relatives' )
asciilifeform: lolyes
asciilifeform: kyoto cl. clisp. franz. lispworks. scineer. (last one - i never tried, cannot say with certainty how standard-compliant)
asciilifeform: ccl
asciilifeform: 1 of 2 . ( the other... ada. )
asciilifeform: indeed
asciilifeform: nor on realtime (e.g. avionics) system.
asciilifeform: because there is not and will not be commonlisp on a micro.
asciilifeform: mno
asciilifeform: the saddest thing about ada is that there is only one. ( only one properly-specified, multi-implementation typesafe language that can build for small (kB ram) as well as large systems . )
asciilifeform: ( and i did not even post any example of use, much less a makefile. so we have here a fella who definitely does his homework ! )
asciilifeform: congrats to phf for being first to build , btw. hats off.
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: i was about to be excited.
asciilifeform: ah
asciilifeform: 64*18 is 1152 neh
asciilifeform: phf: plox to elaborate
asciilifeform: Framedragger: test with/without numlock. betcha it worx as-is.
asciilifeform: ( last time i tried it, it worked on everything short of 'lynx' . )
asciilifeform: also check numlock
asciilifeform: Framedragger: if you know how to make it work-everywhere without library liquishit -- do tell.
asciilifeform: ( where i bet also keyz dun work any moar on 'modern' browser... )
asciilifeform: Framedragger: http://www.loper-os.org/mwemu/mwemu.html << being the other.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: that was 1 of the 2 occasions where i wrote something in js
asciilifeform: Framedragger: does it work on yer box ?
asciilifeform: from various academitards, too
asciilifeform: that one gets linked quite a bit
asciilifeform: lol!!
asciilifeform: waiwhere
asciilifeform: !~google batman suparman
asciilifeform: why not this.
asciilifeform: hey, if a... batman suparman . exists.
asciilifeform: bytes, note. not M, not K.
asciilifeform: ( you can get a few bytes in there, see fg.v )
asciilifeform: nope, that'd need some actual memory
asciilifeform: could. somebody once posted a 1-instruction 4-bit cpu that fits in the xc64.
asciilifeform: but fact -- current : no von neumann. no cpu.
asciilifeform: ( or possibly a fully 74xxxxized circuit, firmwareless. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: next rev of board will have, for lulzies, a not-xilinx
asciilifeform: where if you gotta paste, you gotta 'view src'
asciilifeform: also gotta love the 'slides' liquishit
asciilifeform: ( any other rng , available for love or money, where this is true ?? )
asciilifeform: is not a von neumann machine. doesn't have one inside, even.
asciilifeform: i have devices with 0 kernel. e.g. FUCKGOATS itself.
asciilifeform: 'Can’t attain the security property against attacker who compromises the kernel, but some people worry about theoretically approximating it for some reason.' << this kernel fixation.
asciilifeform: after working as exterminator long enough, all rats begin to look quite alike ☟︎
asciilifeform: complete with link to 'factorable.net' in place of phuctor.
asciilifeform: but similar flavour.
asciilifeform: or hm, maybe not same one, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-15#1614105 ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's the 'use /dev/urandom' d00d !!
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj!
asciilifeform: the funnybit is that it ~still~only exists in this form
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the paper existed in '13 certainly, i read it. but the actual data wasn't public, then or now.
asciilifeform: noshit.jpg
asciilifeform: they 1) whiten with sha 2) won't under any circumstance give access to the raw input.
asciilifeform: same problem with intel's ( probably the most ubiquitous hardware rng )
asciilifeform: Framedragger: re earlier thread : i looked far and wide to possibly buy rng to compare with -- and found nothing worth buying ( no, i won't compare with whitened; i won't pay 20,000 $+ for a box of schematicless ??? ; etc )
asciilifeform: public idiots have this notion, that somehow they are not public idiots if there is no (easily found) log.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: ( for all i know -- literally, issued. )
asciilifeform: because these are issued, 1 per heathen pit.
asciilifeform: and oh lol, they have their own leah apparently.
asciilifeform: even build -- himself.
asciilifeform: no love/hate/any mail re the design, either, interestingly -- design, is public, anyone could read.
asciilifeform: apparently.
asciilifeform: but not afaik yet.
asciilifeform: i'd naively imagine that if they hated, or loved, or some combination, they might write, somewhere.
asciilifeform: no complaint on my end.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: there were a number of folx whom i don't know, who bought. but none yet wrote in.
asciilifeform: kako at one point threatened to buy one, and could make a fine critic. but never could be arsed.
asciilifeform: perhaps ye olde pankkake ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-26#1648131 ) ... ☝︎
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : i'm still waiting for one of the non-tmsr folx who bought, to publicly write something...
asciilifeform: which is not a thing that appears to EXIST on the market.
asciilifeform: mod6: the thing to compare against would be another UNWHITENED rng.
asciilifeform: speaking of subj, i finally have a LYSO crystal here. but not yet a suitable uv detector.