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KRS-1: What can I say its not hard to figure out. I frequent establishment such establishments.
ThickAsThieves: you mean the easy work?
KRS-1: The dorky guy at the end of the bar who has the coke
KRS-1: Right, quite often not even market forces are at work with the mistresses for hire.
mircea_popescu: they work either for themselves, or for the coolest bidder.
mircea_popescu: whores don't work for the highest bidder. they merely pretend to.
mircea_popescu: consider the easier and more familiar case of whores.
mircea_popescu: this is not even remotely true.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mercenaries work for the highest bidder. at the moment, the fellows with the tinted windows are the highest bidder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the people who do never work for govts.
asciilifeform: KRS-1: this is why Blackwater (or Craft International) or who knows where else.
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 now imagine all that + being paid in worthless govt script for getting quite really killed.
KRS-1: mircea_popescu: the pay was never worth anything ...I used to do it (won't mention what) but it was Government employment and the pay wasn't dick. I went back to college and entered the corporate world and never looked back. Tripled my income and wound up working less/less stress..etc.
mircea_popescu: ideally you want to be the fireman in winter, not dry late summer.
KRS-1: They're taking all of the military personnel returning from overseas as preferential applicants by U.S. Law
mircea_popescu: prolly not worth the pay in the coming years.
KRS-1: good luck if you are looking toward any kind of law enforcement or government job requiring law enforcement/police academy training.
jcpham: my new job requires police academy though
jcpham: i think i'm going to change careers
mircea_popescu: "Wells was a loyal employee—in 10 years, the only time he had called in late for work was when his cat died."
Scrat: million tons of granite didn't help piratebay's servers from getting raided
mircea_popescu: (it's from sweat, not the actual pee)
asciilifeform: KRS-1: you know what routinely gets in (and out)? Replacement switches, routers, cables. That come from hell knows where.
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 all true bunkers smell faintly of pee.
KRS-1: i visited many data centers and the sales people at each one do a great job at making you think not even houdini could get in or out
asciilifeform: or partner with someone you can trust, who is.
asciilifeform: the idea is, if you have personal cryptographic control over serious BTC, you need to be ready (and physically equipped) to fight to the death.
KRS-1: 8 foot thick walls of steel reinforced concrete is a bit much to believe
mircea_popescu: however, bitcoin users are the balding delivery man. the 5 inch gash is exceedingly more likely than the successful scavenger hunt.
asciilifeform: I mention the collar because it is picturesque, and because it is a simple and elegant way to have a guy without a family to take hostage do something "voluntarily."
asciilifeform: my point, as always, is that Bitcoin users are, like it or not, playing the Big Game. and this game has rules very different from everyday "public" life, and it helps to be aware of them.
mircea_popescu: i don't keep up so well with the popcult.
asciilifeform: mirce_popescu: the damn collar bomb was front page news worldwide some years ago. and before that, it featured in two separate SF films, before some bastard actually built some.
mircea_popescu: this guy is like a repository of the obscure
asciilifeform: topace: do you - personally - live, eat, work, etc. behind 8 feet of concrete? if not, the above link is relevant.
asciilifeform: at any rate, it is much cheaper to have the owner of the servers "voluntarily" open the door. Let's say, with one of these: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_collarbomb/ around his neck.
asciilifeform: topace: ATMs encased in concrete (as bulletproof as it gets) are routinely stolen, using bulldozers. it might help for your cage to be several floors above ground.
topace: i wonder what teh roof is like
topace: and the walls and floor are 8 feet thick reinforced concrete
topace: asciilifeform: the entrance to my data center is manned 24/7 behind bulletproof glass
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if there's a man with a rifle standing by it a hot chick wearing just a belt still can rip anything off she pleases.
asciilifeform: an iris scanner is only useful if there is a man with a rifle standing next to it. otherwise the enemy can rip it off the wall and replace it with a doctored one, for replay attack.
mircea_popescu: when your heart sends a pulse the small vesells in the retina dilate.
topace: i know very little about biometric identification, other than its fucking cool
topace: huh didnt know that
mircea_popescu: all iris scanners can tell that difference topace
Diablo-D3: DO THEY LISTEN
Diablo-D3: not to do that
Diablo-D3: I have told people at least 9000 fucking times
mircea_popescu: and there's inertia in the world, people stick to what worked in the past
topace: the iris scanners at my data center supposedly can even tell the difference between a dead eye and a live eye (so if someone kills me and takes my eyeball, tehy STILL cant get in :p)
mircea_popescu: topace only recently we became rich enough for most services rto afford this
topace: if you dont own your own servers and have them locked in a cage that only you have access to, you're just asking for trouble.
topace: its incomprehensible to me that anyone would use a shared/rented/vps hosting platform for anything bitcoin related
mircea_popescu: i would guess they just need to do a complete audit by now
kakobrekla: and its making the thing look worse than it is
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla sucxks to be them
mircea_popescu: http://www.bitcoinnotbombs.com/ << who's this ?
kakobrekla: the bitcoin central thing.
TomServo: For sure, thanks for point it out.
mircea_popescu: quite fascinating stuff for the troubles at hand.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: I hadn't, but hadn't heard of assignats either. Does seem strikingly similar indeed. I need to read more.
error4733: Yep, better communication this time
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: i wonder if anyone is noticing the striking similarities between the debates surrounding assignats back in 1790s France and the current debates re bond buying/tapering going on in the US.
BTCOxygen: Whats the avarage annual return users are interested in ?
damientrog: if you want to enjoy the good life
damientrog: well hire someone to do it for you then
ThickAsThieves: he's probly just enjoying the good life
damientrog: it's a gold mine left to waste right now
damientrog: hmm.. I'll ask him as well on Skype what the deal is
ThickAsThieves: but the whole thing is going stale
ThickAsThieves: i know things take time
ThickAsThieves: erik argues away promoting the site a lot, explains away adding features, and barely communicates at all
damientrog: I think we'll be getting 5x as much (my last calc using dooglus stats)
ThickAsThieves: i guess at these prices it's not too bad divs-wise
ThickAsThieves: but then it never actually rises in value
ThickAsThieves: feels cool to arb it up
ThickAsThieves: yes i did that for a while
damientrog: and then resell at 3.x
ThickAsThieves: i so no reason not to
damientrog: but I hope he does get his act together
damientrog: I just keep buying at this bottom price
Cylta: How much does cost 1 put or call btcusd option on MPEX? if price is fluctuating, give me aprx price, thanks!
mircea_popescu: he says they're working on things.
ThickAsThieves: he keeps saying he's doing so much behind the scenes
ThickAsThieves: that's the problem
ThickAsThieves: hey someone should tell evoorhees to get his act together
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla sounds likea good name for a beastly street fighter character, much better than blanka
gribble: There are currently 46909.977 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8370931.75556 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.7003 seconds
gribble: There are currently 158341.61 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14196719.2615 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.7810 seconds
ThickAsThieves: you win the privelege of gicing me lifetime free access to bitfetch!
Scrat: thick ass thieves: bunch of bootycilious black chicks stealing your flatscreen TV?
BTCOxygen: mircea_popescu: What does it take to launch an asset on mpex ?
mircea_popescu: needs also trolling.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hey, wanna go into that thread and be all like "o mem's totally right, we're boycotting mpex nao" ?
ThickAsThieves: The more gradients, textures, and drop shadows, the more trustworthy
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller lol that's one longass reddit post dood
BTCOxygen: I will be editing this in a few hours.
BTCOxygen: Also the 2800GH/s is == 3000GH/s