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Scrat: is the smtp server yours?
Scrat: what do you use to send emails
topace: i guess insert emails to send into a database, and have another server pull them out and send the mail from there
topace: but i still dont know what to do with the damn "received from" header
topace: so i can deal with a bruteforce scan of the entire ip4 range on port 80, by whitelisting/firewalling the cloudflare IP's
topace: its gone now, try again
topace: heh, forgot to deconfigure that
ll: can get it from your dns servers too
Scrat: topace: would be a good idea then (to whitelist these blocks)
topace: but i still need a way for tha tmail server not to add a "Received from:" header
topace: and leaving it as just the mail server im sending out from
topace: ill obviously be removing them when i switch IP's
topace: ll: only if you put them there
topace: im sure they add/remove occasionally
topace: very little from what i can tell
Scrat: how often does that list change
topace: yes they do
Scrat: topace: here's the problem, they don't have set IPs
mircea_popescu: i'll save you the 4bn lookups : mpex.co. 474 IN A 174.127.72.233
topace: so apache wont reply to any host thats not cloudflare
topace: actually, simply setting Allow from IP's in apache should fix that problem scrat
Scrat: takes a few ec2 machines to do it in a few hours, at a minimal cost
Scrat: no anti-ddos service has set IPs, they juggle them around, nullroute them ,etc
Scrat: mircea_popescu: are you implying that it doesn't work? it can be avoided however if reverse proxies have set IPs and your webservers whitelist said IPs
ThickAsThieves: i should have clarified to look at the M1 chart to see the spike
mircea_popescu: Scrat try this on mpex ?
ThickAsThieves: wired tweeted the delivery
mircea_popescu: topace ouch. that';s no good.
mircea_popescu: <jborkl> BFL sends a demo unit to Wired did wired say anything yet ?
ThickAsThieves: heh, check ou this spike http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/
Scrat: no idea if cloudflare does that
mod6: haha! i'm getting so sick of these clowns
Scrat: akamai can setup a custom X-Header so you know it's them, you check for it and show vhost not found if it's not them
topace: i guess thats one way
Scrat: one of them will present a http 200 for the host header havelockinvestments.com
topace: Scrat: pelase let me know my IP, im changing it soon as i get the email thing figured out www.havelockinvestments.com
topace: whats the solution to this? dont send emails? lol.
topace: so, question - my webserver ie behind cloudflare, but it sends emails, the receiving SMTP server adds a "received from:" header to the message, revealign the IP of my server..
mod6: well, at least these people in the MSM certainly all seem to be
jborkl: BFL sends a demo unit to Wired
mod6: mircea_popescu: i saw that 'dawn' deleted all those tweets. glad you followed it up with this: http://trilema.com/2013/fire-in-alabama-lets-make-the-most-of-it/
tk993: War starting to rage over bitcoin price.
MJR_: but yeah, how much of the value of the world do you have under your control = making it rain on bitches or not
mircea_popescu: im going to cook! so... later.
MJR_: mircea_popescu: they are one and the same
MJR_: anyways, lunch time, cya later
mircea_popescu: but why should these be distinct ?
MJR_: total money = total value
MJR_: not the money
MJR_: great article...think the same thing as far as its all about the value
seongyupyoo: anyways take care
mircea_popescu: this is the place for bitcoin biz.
mircea_popescu: seongyupyoo don't listen to kakobrekla and trolls
seongyupyoo: yeah i'd like to see a distributed exchange also
seongyupyoo: so what is this chat room
MJR_: the entire idea is only interesting as a theoretical philosophical exercise
ThickAsThieves: are there not pools that share collected tx fees?
ThickAsThieves: even if pool ops gain, they have no way to game it
kakobrekla: that solves the problem! not.
ThickAsThieves: and over time
ThickAsThieves: also, the coins dist by donated tx fees could easily be spread out thin
MJR_: you can look up a spreadsheet that tells you each pool's rules...also, who cares
ThickAsThieves: surely there are pools that do
seongyupyoo: that sounds about right that pool ops wouldn't share
seongyupyoo: how to distribute among nashx traders is another issue,,, like it was brought up before people can make fake accounts and many face transactions
ThickAsThieves: i didnt even know most pools dont share tx fees, is that true?!
MJR_: i want to trade! i will roll up the bills and push them through ethernet?
MJR_: how do i do a p2p transfer of $155?
ThickAsThieves: then a pool that shares them will win
ThickAsThieves: if there is great incentive for tx fees
MJR_: that is why its best to distribute to people who are using nashX
seongyupyoo: still pool ops are incentivized to destroy
MJR_: i think the major problem with all these decentralized exchange ideas is that they have no concept of fiat money, and do nothing to solve that problem
ThickAsThieves: kako that is a pool problem
MJR_: ^^ true
seongyupyoo: i think that may be the answer
kakobrekla: most ops take those fees in the pocket
kakobrekla: basically you are giving them to pool ops
seongyupyoo: kind of still similar to putting it in blackhole
MJR_: ok...and whichever coins you want to lose, you can just lose?
mircea_popescu: it will be difficulty to argue that miners are extra incentivised thus
seongyupyoo: because transactions are done by the traders themselves, not by nashx
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> what if you donate the destroyed coins as TX fees into blockchain << this may work
seongyupyoo: yes, that would still mean they each have to make many transactions
MJR_: his plan was to give it to market participants
ThickAsThieves: what if you donate the destroyed coins as TX fees into blockchain
mod6: i hate the idea of coin 'taint'
MJR_: i personally like bitcoin just the way it is, i haven't seen another system which brings anything valuable to the table in my opinino
asciilifeform: you have to destroy coins for real (that is, threaten to) to punish without creating perverse incentive for the party triggering the punishment.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: hahaha. I'm sick of the retards.
MJR_: he just doesn't give them to the people actually wanting them
ThickAsThieves: can large tx initiate large, but resolve in chunks?
MJR_: seongyupyoo: he doesn't actually destroy them
seongyupyoo: and how to handle big transactions or allow many quick small transactions
MJR_: under that system
seongyupyoo: yes two problem i see with nashx now is destroyed coins
MJR_: trying to make coins which are used illicitly be tracked
ThickAsThieves: serves to distract us from nashx
MJR_: so since its voluntary, all the best, have fun
MJR_: if you don't want to participate in the system, it doesn't matter to you