916800+ entries in 0.707s
seongyupyoo: then i'd need
to provide many
transation id as a proof of destruction
seongyupyoo: i should start running a pool where i keep
the
transaction fee lol
seongyupyoo: well, if i send a lot of small ones, it would be hard for
the
traders
to check
their fund was destroyed
seongyupyoo: would you guys like
to hear
the 4 problems, and my plan
to solve
them?
seongyupyoo: i identified 4 big issues from all
the feedback i gather
today
seongyupyoo: how bad is destroying
to blackholeaddress?
seongyupyoo: i understand
that, i
thought
there was another way
to manually setting input and output
maximian: send 0.000000 01 BTC
to any address, and specify a fee of 99BTC
ThickAsThieves: most of
the destroyed coin would be sent as
the
tx fee
mircea_popescu: i
think you'll have
to read up on how bitcoin
txs work
ThickAsThieves: you have
to send an actual amount (i
think) plus a
tx fee
seongyupyoo: i'm just
trying
to clarify how
to make a
transaction
seongyupyoo: so send money from my wallet
to my wallet with 100 input and 1 output if i don't
to give back 99?
mircea_popescu: you just check
the
tx in blockchain, it'll be
there. 100 goes in, 1 goes out so 99 was miner fee
seongyupyoo: people will need
to be able
to see
that
their exact fund amount has been destroyed at
that
time
seongyupyoo: i'm not following you when you say make
tx with 100 input
to and 1 output
mircea_popescu: like, make a
tx with 100 btc inputs, 1 satoshi outputs
seongyupyoo: so i got
that now 1 and 2 are same and you just send
to an address
that no one has key
to
ThickAsThieves: but
the problem
there is you are accelerating deflation
mircea_popescu: you'll need
to calculatge
the checksums so it validates, but
that's no big deal
mircea_popescu: seongyupyoo its simple, just send coins
to an address
that nobody has
the key for.
seongyupyoo: i don't know as i don't know how
to do either
mircea_popescu: well, 1 justg send
them
to a fixed address like 1blackhole398759347589
seongyupyoo: i'm wondering what ways
there are
to do 1. really destroy bitcoins 2. blackhole it 3. give it back
to blockchain
seongyupyoo: cool, so i've been
thinking really hard about destorying, and really
the only way
this system would be viable if
the destroy funds are either really destroyed, sent
to void, sent back
to blockchain somehow
mircea_popescu: A recent investigation has shown
that
the number of clicks on search results stemming from a given country correlates with
the amount of investment in
that country
gribble: There are currently 21257.668 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2718075.47269 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
gribble: There are currently 151705.18 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12737481.7987 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0082 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 140.10015, Best ask: 140.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.88984, Last
trade: 141.22614, 24 hour volume: 187759.77712509, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.12243
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu,
that's what
they call you. bitcoin billi-on-aire, lots of niggas say it ain't fair.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 142.25001, Best ask: 142.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last
trade: 142.36000, 24 hour volume: 177752.29026620, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.50780
gesell: was from a long
time ago
gesell: just reading
the gox emails wrong
gesell: hmm... well i had a lot of orders at $88
that got fulfilled
pgp3: maybe
that was
the limit price?
pgp3: what do you mean $90... I don't see
that anywhere...
KRS1: look, its like
this..this shit is nuttier
than a port-o-potty at a peanut festival
jurov: should we
tell him?
gesell: no really, i dont see much on reddit and wasnt around at
the
time
KRS1: some corn on
the side
too
Scrat: pizza was delivered
to
the gox headquarters
gesell: can someone explain what happened
that caused
the drop
to $90?
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 142.16804, Best ask: 142.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.33186, Last
trade: 142.16804, 24 hour volume: 166821.51265896, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.49206
MJR_: (obsolete)
To beat or whip;
to drive.
MJR_: wow,
talk about a
time when context could really matter\
MJR_: To increase
the liveliness of a horse by inserting an irritant, such as a piece of peeled raw ginger or a live eel, in its fundament.
MJR_: To decorate or improve in appearance
through artificial means.
KRS1: driving down
the interstate 5 lanes each direction at 80 mph buying and selling
through my android in my diesel 4x4
truck
mircea_popescu: "to feague a horse is
to put ginger up a horse’s fundament, and formerly, as it is said, a live eel,
to make him lively and carry his
tail well. It is said, a forfeit is incurred by any horse-dealer’s servant, who shall show a horse without first feaguing him."
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 132.79999, Best ask: 132.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last
trade: 132.79999, 24 hour volume: 145217.59936021, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 144.61258
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox
ticker. If one of
the result options is given, returns only
that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns
ticker for
that
three-letter currency code. It is up
to you
to make sure
that
the
three letter code you enter is a (1 more message)
joecool: panic
time, fleanode netsplit
jurov: one needs
to be constantly vigilant
toward self...
to not fall into habit of using self's intelligence
to make others appear dumb, for example
jborkl: people panic so much, so easy
to predict
jborkl: oh my people running at
the door screaming
mircea_popescu: jborkl
there was a dude earlier
telling me my article is out of date
gribble: MtGox lag is 2.923985 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.00585963320143 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter
to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
MJR_: mircea_popescu: avoid challenges
that can't be avoided...hard
to explain i guess, but some
things have
to be done, not
talking about wasting effort
jurov: i see
the roses i bought were put
to good use
jurov: yeq. i went into bitcoin in hope
to avoid some challenges,
too :D
MJR_: anyway, people either avoid challenges or welcome
them,
that is a great heuristic for separating out
those who will learn and
those who will do what
they are
told
Scrat: can't,
the bath is proprietary