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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the reason i sometimes try to 'wake up' young, excitable folk like gabriel_laddel is that they are not yet at a stage where one made various dead-end design choices , that, now locked into, man enters a sad lifetime of justification and 'just wanted to' and 'only a terrorist would throw out my life's work of library'
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: can we table this discussion for the time being? I understand what it is that you're getting at, but you don't have (and nor will you have) a clear picture of exactly what it is that I'm doing.
phf: i think the disagreement can be bridged on architectural grounds. i think gabriel_laddel's lack of understanding of clx and ideological refusal to understand it better is going to result in the worse final design. there are examples of x11 done right, that are much easier to port away to native hardware. whether or not "x11" or "no x11" is the final design, basic x protocol provides for a very solid set of ground level elements and also
asciilifeform: a ~whole~ system lets me preserve the semantics of the items to be drawn, for maximally compact transmission over a wire, and rasterizing on a display of my choosing
asciilifeform: but a cheap imitation.
gabriel_laddel: Terry A Davis wrote a whole graphics system that doesn't communicate with X.
mircea_popescu: i think the last person who had that locked themselves in a cellar and rages there still.
asciilifeform: let, then, gabriel_laddel waste half a decade , as i did, learning what he could instead learn in 10min.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: until i want to send a pcb print to a laser printer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a ms-dos lisp would not, at this point, be a bad machine.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: the msdos-style 'apps will write directly to graphics card' is not a replacement.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: my understanding of the present situation is that the linux kernel is here to stay, as it is a result of the way that the cee machine works, and contains drivers for a bunch of useful hardware
asciilifeform: the problem is that you have not in fact done the job, but arbitrarily proclaimed that your steer is 'just the same as a bull'
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: was my interpretation that in 2002 people were dong a lot of client side font rendering?
phf: gabriel_laddel: i understand your end goal, but the steps that you're taking to get there are going to result in worse design. you'd be better served in understanding clx first, making ~that~ work well by working to its strengths, and then replacing clx with own system. by then you'll have a snappier system and less primitives to write. i highly recommend spinning up VLM/genera and seeing how they do unix interop. it's really quite
asciilifeform: it is very easy algorithm for 'optimization' - simply declare that a good chunk of the job 'does not need doing' and cut the corner
mircea_popescu: you gotta form a habit to voice self you know.
asciilifeform: and what happens if i want to rasterize on a device that isn't my lcd ? (e.g., printer, phototypesetter, lcd on mars..?)
gabriel_laddel: you simply have a CL process that talks directly to the hardware
gabriel_laddel: but I need a stable platform from which to redesign computing from the ground up
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: you're going to be waiting a while in any case, so I wouldn't get to worked up about it.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel huh. listen, probably not actionable right now, but in general and on the long term if you write me a crystal space replacement in lisp ima definitely bundle it in eulora.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: keep in mind that a 'replacement for x' that doesn't do the same job is not a replacement.
gabriel_laddel: am installing masamune for a client (by hand) right now
gabriel_laddel: on my dead harddrive there is a bunch of half-implemented useful things like clim-spec-in-clim, the "navigator" which is a reflective search apropos, I've taken climacs and made it usable for day-to-day work...
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel could probably get a considerable head start on clim cleanup just by unwinding version by a decade
gabriel_laddel: one thing at a time
gabriel_laddel: configuration after a setxkbmap change...
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: redid the website, removed all the crap backends, gas2serra fixed a threading bug that caused irritating visual artifacts, I went through the whole of the CLIM archives and pulled out all the useful info, the codebase has been totally re-ordered, truetype is now the default, bugfixes relating to not pulling in the correct X keyboard
asciilifeform: (you have a spiffy www but the clim looks much as i found it in 2007)
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel hey, they're people, with a brain right ? can benefit from discussion of this as any other topic.
BingoBoingo will need to dust off copy of "spam like a pro in 24 hours"
mircea_popescu: importing bitcoin into your financial affairs works its magic just by being a node ; doesn't have to be the whole process. actually, can't even be whole process, that's gavintardism. but yeah, no big deal.
gabriel_laddel: also, jackdaniel is a pleb / etherhuffer (at least politically, and I really appreciate his work on mcclim)
mircea_popescu: that may be, but this is scarcely a reason to breach your privacy and etc.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: do you have an intern who wants to make a couple hundred bucks here and there writing CL for McCLIM?
mircea_popescu: whether os or not os needn't be resolved ; but gabriel_laddel should be able to acquire a copy i say!
mircea_popescu: (it is not technically possible for a man's claims to exceed his wealth, because wealth includes the value of all claims by definition)
BingoBoingo: What of the man worth 1 pence who sues for a whole pound?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo mind if i write a qntra detailing justice holman's breach of the european declaration of human rights and other matters ?
mircea_popescu will find this joint one day, give a girl a five and ask for change.
mircea_popescu: what a fucking outrage.
mircea_popescu: i'd fucking call a hit. what the fucking shit is this. omfg.
mircea_popescu: "I have to say that I do not find it very ediffying that people in this financial bracket should be taking up a day of court time over a sum which to them, though not to others, is objectively so small. However, agreement has not been reached and I must rule." << HOLY SHIT
asciilifeform: whole thing is a riot
phf: i think blonds are out at the moment, everyone wants a quirky hipster brunete, miami only makes it worse with all the latinos. i know a few blonds that actually color their hair. it's trully barbaric age up here.
mircea_popescu: http://www.lastnightsparty.com/another1/slides/8Y0A2858.JPG << this is EXACTLY how Old Whore looked at that age : a transvestite prostitute.
mircea_popescu: the tits are superb, btw, best silicone i've seen in a while.
phf: well, terry richardson popularized the style of photography. sort of trashy "amateur" photography with good lighting, vomit and tits. it all looks a lot more polished when you're shit faced
phf: also miami is where da clubs at, it's like a trashier, "let's go to the beach" version of new york club scene. let's have merlin bronques say a few words about it http://www.lastnightsparty.com/miami/
asciilifeform: at any rate is still seems like an odd choice for 'inject crowd bozo', you still get a limp, not flailing, man
mircea_popescu: autoinjector shot is what, maybe a shade over 2ml ? which includes the carrying fluid. insufficient to kill a lapdog.
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking essential medicine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh get out of here. ketamine ld50 is like half a gram/kg. propofol 1/10 that. in either case you can't pack enough of the stuff in a shot to kill anyone.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1518874 << 'therapeutic window' refers to the diff b/w a 'therapeutic' and fatal dose. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: dude... a shitty place with hot wet weathert and a bunch of old farts in "gated communities".
mircea_popescu: no dude. that's how it works with lone redditard in his forsaken den. if some guy just rushed your subject, he's in the middle of a media blitz and the ambulance is right there.
mircea_popescu: and if your security team needs more than 5 minutes you need a new security team.
mircea_popescu: hence why i wouldn't use diazepam. god gave you propofol / ketamine for a reason.
asciilifeform: you also dun want to generate a corpse.
asciilifeform: there was a public incident where yeltsin had some old hag run out at him and she got needled
asciilifeform: incidentally, sov gensecs had a dude with diazepam injector follow them around. but the thing was not for gensec, but for crowd bozos rushing at him
mircea_popescu: and you're not even a president!
mircea_popescu: suppose i get hold of her and keep her in a room for half a day ? what then ? "i can't recognise the person i voted for!!!" ?
mircea_popescu: every "rockstar" with a habit i've ever encountered had one of these.
asciilifeform: it remains fact, that handler with battlefield trauma injector is not a sop part of whatever habit.
mircea_popescu: there's uppers and there's downers. add "nothings" a la caffeine/nicotine etc and that;s just about it.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do you think prince died as a ball consisting half of psychoactives by mass ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this "folks" is a 70+ yo woman.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 12:09 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo look, the woman ain't got no seizures. she's got a habit, left over from the days she was stuck in scandal cast playing kerry washington (created by shonda rhimes).
BingoBoingo: And its been discussed for a while without opportunity appearing.
mircea_popescu: ftr this is a good idea bb.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so consider publishing it. you got a blog neh ?
BingoBoingo: Well seizures are a benzodiazepine withdrawal symptom, goes with the habit.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo look, the woman ain't got no seizures. she's got a habit, left over from the days she was stuck in scandal cast playing kerry washington (created by shonda rhimes). ☟︎
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated gabriel_laddel 2 at 2015/04/11 14:35:30 << almost a year later, he got a larger chunk of exercise ball down his gullet than anyone i know of.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 00:58 mircea_popescu: (dunno who for instance recalls 2012 back when "logging irc" was "a bad idea" by "community agreement". freenode would still hold on to that idiocy hadn't it died meanwhile.)
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1518720 << bwahaha i have irc logs dating back to 2004 ! there is, preserved in cd-rom, a record of the transformation of me from atheist to christian ☝︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/08/11/the-sorts-of-questions-scandinavian-journalists-ask-about-maidsafe-answered/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The sorts of questions Scandinavian journalists ask about MaidSafe, answered.
ben_vulpes: that a lovely building may be bought and the savages beaten out of it like dust from a rug
ben_vulpes: this fwiw is the appeal to me of ars, deflated though it may be through many a trilema
mircea_popescu: quite, it's a brazzers set. she gets pounded.
asciilifeform: when i was on a usg throne and had ~unlimited budget, i ordered ALL of the known commercial lisps (with exception of 'scineer') brought in.
phf: it's sort of a universe in itself, i started looking at it again, because i'm doing some graphics work with lisp and needed a good gui toolkit. i'm using CAPI right now, which is proprietary and part of lispworks
phf: mircea_popescu: it's a ui for lisp that gabriel_laddel has been contributing to
phf: trinque: you're on a book cover blurb ;) https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/excite.html
phf: oh it's on a blog now
mircea_popescu: (dunno who for instance recalls 2012 back when "logging irc" was "a bad idea" by "community agreement". freenode would still hold on to that idiocy hadn't it died meanwhile.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (drone usb is when a drone flies in between points a and b, and back again, carrying an usb stick it plugs in on arrival)
mircea_popescu: trinque nothing wrong with having a http bridge.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hosts file can't possibly be more intimate than a gpg keyring
ben_vulpes: this presents the thorny problem of noobs not having the foggiest where ben_vulpes/r/<a_vastly_shorter_id> is actually located on the net
mircea_popescu: you can have a canonical copy unrelatedly to whether you scribble on your copy or not.
asciilifeform: trinque: not much use imho, a hostfile is the most intensely personal item possible, it is mapping of key fp's to friends' names.
trinque: sounds like a great idea.
trinque: actually I think mircea_popescu first mentioned getting a vtronic hosts file going
mircea_popescu: it has no fucking knobs. one step above pgp'ing in a browser.
mircea_popescu: i never ftp'd in a browser, nor would i.
mircea_popescu: a) can just http download anyway ; b) what.