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dub: can anyone login to bfl?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.85655, Best ask: 118.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.14345, Last trade: 116.85655, 24 hour volume: 171832.50565117, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 121.95394
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deadweasel: do y'all trust or use bitfinex?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.20000, Best ask: 119.41938, Bid-ask spread: 0.21938, Last trade: 119.41938, 24 hour volume: 168525.01604357, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.04069
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.50000, Best ask: 119.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 119.50000, 24 hour volume: 168525.01604357, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.04069
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.75200, Best ask: 117.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54800, Last trade: 116.75200, 24 hour volume: 165498.55399948, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.28374
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gribble: MtGox lag is 12.167562 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0243836580132 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.24197, Best ask: 112.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45803, Last trade: 112.70000, 24 hour volume: 160741.58524685, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.75478
taub: daily reminder that mtgox is run by amateures
jcpham: but that can't be right
benkay: loss factor, then?
jcpham: i think it is a fraction
benkay: what's the intel you glean from that?
jcpham: how many times 141 goes into 104
benkay: what are you calculating there?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.30000, Best ask: 109.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 109.00000, 24 hour volume: 153906.50061501, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 123.43449
jcpham: seems nomral to me
jborkl: and the calls ofsetting
jborkl: oh , yeah I forgot about the settlement value
mircea_popescu: and if the same person also sold the 4k calls, then .1 from there
mircea_popescu: nah it's not that bad. -0.2 per or w/e
jborkl: 10k bitcoins to the winner
mircea_popescu: i guess that practically answers tk993 's question. yes, someone wrote 4k puts yest
jborkl: long way till the end of the month, but bondholders are happy in one way -
deadweasel: well i saw those 4k puts bought and started wondering
jurov: but it's hard to pick up from all the noise
jurov: no, it's not unlikely something like that happened already
deadweasel: but they would have to have huge resources and motivation
mircea_popescu: deadweasel o nm. yes, in theory this is possible.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel if you sell the puts you can't exercise them
jurov: mircea_popescu: the x axis are days in april?
deadweasel: is this a possible vector of attack on mpex? = they'd buy 4000 puts then ddos and dump their btc for 24 hrs then exercise....
deadweasel: no worries, take it from there... i was gonna make it pretty, but meh.
jurov: just that
jurov: deadweasel thanks anyway
deadweasel: what's that jurov?
deadweasel: but it's colloquial to me
deadweasel: benkay, I call that the great divide
benkay: is there a word for the spread between options breakeven?
truffles: full time martial arts training and instructing...>>> i want
deadweasel: i have full time job, plus full time lady friend, plus full time martial arts training and instructing... i can barely keep up with bitcoin as is
benkay: what's the status of the thing?
deadweasel: but I just don't care enought to finish
tk993: Wow, those options are pricing in massive moves. Are you able to sell them like normal options or just buy them?
jurov: i think we can consider this position vacant
ThickAsThieves: so you need to make a copy of the doc
ThickAsThieves: note that google updates are unpredictable
jurov: ^that weasely dude was hired to write a manual... a month ago or so
benkay: would someone remind me of the calculation of the breakeven point for puts and calls?
ThickAsThieves: one thing at a time for now tho
ThickAsThieves: so might just be USD/BTC to start
ThickAsThieves: of course itd be tricky to get involved in too many assets
ThickAsThieves: so maybe that can be your market maker
ThickAsThieves: which will likely involve playing on all exchanges that offer options features
ThickAsThieves: I do have intentions of starting an options-oriented fund after these assets are off the ground
jurov: benkay, both bf and btct has this
benkay: one can write options on the assets on the exchange?
ThickAsThieves: anyone that owns shares/btc can write options
jurov: there's very serious interest in them. or in shorting.
damientrog: well that always sucks when it's such a low level problem
jurov: ThickAsThieves, will you also offer options on TAT.ASICMINER in any significant quantity?
benkay: idiots are all "USE ALL THE PYTHON 3 PACKAGES BY DEFAULT ALL THE TIME WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR NOT EVEN OLD DEPENDENCIES"
benkay: damientrog it was a python 3 thing
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.01000, Best ask: 116.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.99000, Last trade: 114.01000, 24 hour volume: 145094.43438432, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 124.34100
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
damientrog: always willing to take a look
damientrog: hmm that's been many years ago for me
mircea_popescu: "media kit" is this $40 CPM bullshit.
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck these people.
benkay: does anyone have a moment to debug jurov's mpex client with me?
mircea_popescu: that's, if you're curious, how the entire kraken meme got started.
damientrog: nice, that's quick to establish the exchange
mircea_popescu: as if you pay investors with investor money this is obvious in the bliockchain
jcpham: under the pirate ship
mircea_popescu: pretty much for the purpose of buying newly minted coins
jcpham: if you want to see what mixing loooks like
mircea_popescu: he had the original miner haspower exchange thing
benkay: we can verify that it hit a mixer.
pgp2: put it through a mixer, i presume..
benkay: "probably"? can't we verify this?
mircea_popescu: and that means about 100k or so i'd guess (dollars)
benkay: have those been spent yet?
mircea_popescu: tho that's really the upper bound of outstanding obligations
mircea_popescu: as in "i can't believe i've been this stupid and it totally can't be my fault"
mircea_popescu: so people were truely furious when the thing did in fact keel
mircea_popescu: this at the time was serious cognitive dissonance, as pretty much everyone was on the bandwagon
damientrog: Bitcoin history is better than any movie
mircea_popescu: incidentally rthe original "mpoe-pr is bad pr" and/or "mp is evil" started because the girl called the entire thing a scam last april
mircea_popescu: but genberally at the time situation was very tense.
benkay: remind me again why I bother pursuing legal remuneration for things?
mircea_popescu: he ended up with 10's of k's of btc bet (at the time price was under 10)
mircea_popescu: this guy made an open offer bet to anyyone on the forum that pirate pays out
damientrog: also before my time
damientrog: pirate is the guy who pulled the ponzi scheme right?
benkay: ThickAsTHieves I totally didn't read the labels on the graph. hungover.
thestringpuller: I think this is before my time
ThickAsThieves: the chart shows how we're in a compressed recreation of the most recent bubble
mircea_popescu: you know the pirate bet