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mod6: smickles &
thestringpuller signed up
to help but
they're
too busy or w/e so I
think I'm just back
to on-my-own on
that one.
mod6: As far as
the android app, I've been working on
the encryption stuff, which has been going ok -- did a bunch of code clean out etc.
mod6: I've been crazy busy
though
trying
to keep up with work and btc-land stuff. I made few line changes
to
the vwap & depth perl scripts for bitotter last-night. And I've been
testing some changes
to
the
trade script (bitotter.pl) for about 2 weeks, just making sure all works good before
the next checkin with
that.
Framedragger: bitcoin CVEs yeah, it's funny when folks claim
there've been no vulnerabilities
Framedragger: haha for echo.. sounds like a php kiddie
trying
to do bash scripting or sth
mod6: but if i want
to pay 2.3 magical swords for your warez, and you can't deliver, I expect
to get my 2.3 magical swords back.
mod6: that's always an issue --
too many fucking scammarz.
mod6: well, aside from
the
trust level.
mod6: But I value BTC pretty much higher
than most other
things
that I could purchase with it, which is why I don't spend much of it.
mod6: I'd probably negrate for stuff like
that.
mod6: guruvan: yeah, I'm ok will refunds minus
the fees, but not after a conversion
to some fiat.
mircea_popescu: The alert functionality in bitcoind and Bitcoin-Qt before 0.7.0 supports different character representations of
the same signature data, but relies on a hash of
this signature, which allows remote attackers
to cause a denial of service (resource consumption) via a valid modified signature for a circulating alert.
guruvan: mod6: IIRC he'll refund in BTC, after converting
to
the now current exchange rate. :P
mircea_popescu: Unspecified vulnerability in bitcoind and Bitcoin-Qt before 0.4.7rc3, 0.5.x before 0.5.6rc3, 0.6.0.x before 0.6.0.9rc1, and 0.6.x before 0.6.3rc1 allows remote attackers
to cause a denial of service (process hang) via unknown behavior on a Bitcoin network.
mircea_popescu: The "encrypt wallet" feature in wxBitcoin and bitcoind 0.4.x before 0.4.1, and 0.5.0rc, does not properly interact with
the deletion functionality of BSDDB, which allows context-dependent attackers
to obtain unencrypted private keys from Bitcoin wallet files by bypassing
the BSDDB interface and reading entries
that are marked for deletion.
mod6: Yeah, if I pay in BTC, I demand
to be paid back in BTC.
guruvan: the BTC makes it so easy
to want
to do it
that way - but. ...I know I certainly offer refunds
to people in
the currency
they paid me (in
the same amount as was paid)
mod6: I usually just pay cash at a local place around here, but when it was @ $260/btc ea. I
thought, wth, give
these guys a shot and see what happens.
mod6: So I was pretty happy with
that.
mod6: My silver order was /pretty/
though.
guruvan: when it's back
to $25 a coin
guruvan: hmm. yeah - I
think I'll buy elsewhere
jcpham: which was some
time ago
mod6: not sure if
the recent physical gld buying frenzy played a roll in
that, or if it was
the btc bubble pop
that played a roll
there. but 60 days i guess is my max limit.
mod6: jcpham: ahh, hmm. i placed my orders on
the 9th.. my slv one got here pretty quick. but
the gld order
took until yesterday
to ship apparently.
guruvan: jcpham: not
to mention
that if he can't fill
the order refunds come in fiat, not in
the original paid BTC price
truff1es: mjr_1 is
that some kind of seduction ?
guruvan: thank god for
that mod6 - here I usually see 2-3 ft each snowfall
jcpham: i've seen and seen and seen
too
guruvan: I don't
think I'd buy from
them after
the
troubles I've seen
mod6: guruvan: well,
typically we get a range. its not like mountain snowfall
though. sometimes 1-2" sometimes 8-12"...
mod6: So... apparently
that's happening. Will give another update after I receive.
mod6: oh and jcpham, i did get an email about
the other 1/2 of my coinabul order shipping yesterday.
guruvan: hopefully you don't measure your
typical snowfall in FEET like we do here mod6 (or meters)
mod6: was kinda sick earlier
this week :/
guruvan: yeah -
thank god for
that - I had
to leave other chans because I'm
too "offtopic"
truff1es: guruvan more circle jerking goes on itc
than elsewhere
too
Framedragger: part of
the freakout is obvs sarcastic / intended, but yeah still
guruvan: -assets doesn't lose it when BTC/"USD
takes a shit -
the freakout in other channels shows
the
truth
guruvan: oh yes - in
this channel
there might be a difference - lol hang out in any of
the other ones ;)
guruvan: no shit
they don't - almost no one in bitcoin has come from anything other
than a geek background
Framedragger: the issue prob is
that gox admins do not come from
that kind of background..
guruvan: gox should learn from
them
Framedragger: also: multiple exchanges / for different kinds of
tradings - gox could block micro
trades, others would fill
the market. supply and demand, bitch
Framedragger: it's probably writtinen in rails all over
the place, it could prob be 100
times as efficient :(
guruvan: they should charge for
that kind of
thing - plenty of real world exchanges do charge for cancellation of unfilled ordres
Framedragger: yeah
this is so fucking insane. it doesn't sound like blocking / restricting mircotrading is even difficult. wtf
inhies: they need
to be able
to handle
the load
inhies: they dont need
to police it
inhies: and
thats how exchanges work
pgp2: ok... so I've been examing
the
the gox depth messages... I just watched some guy add and remove
thousands of .01 BTC quotes from $1
to $3 in $0.001 price increments, creating a shitload of lag doing it - fucking bullshit - why can't gox police
their own fucking exchange!
gribble: MtGox lag is 10.6201 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.0212825614914 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin
ten
times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
damientrog: but I'm gonna
take a rest see you guys laters
damientrog: I'll need
to mutilate a PSU
to power it up
damientrog: that joy will switch
to fear and panic
trying get
the
thing working
truff1es: like all of
those how
to make your internet faster
tutorials heh
truff1es: sure seems like
the nerdy/geeky
thing
to do if u have
the funds
damientrog: I know it's not really a fantastic investment in
terms of ROI, more a piece of bitcoin history
damientrog: but I still need
to deliver some hardcore bugfixes
truff1es: the day started off strong with laughter
though
damientrog: now I want
to make someone else's day shitty by gloating, and it's all good
damientrog: after a shitty day friedcat made it all good by providing me with
the
tracking nr for my asicminer order
truff1es: but still prob easy
to hack if it is all lowercase right
mjr_1: making passwords
too difficult means i leave sticky note
Framedragger: Scrat might be an interesting exercise heh,
though yeah realistically, it's really fine
Scrat: sort of like
the people who made gambling machines who used
the mersenne
twister
Framedragger: might make sense
to be curling some very long gutenberg ebook
txt while generating
though heh
davout: that would allow one
to build a fully validating implementation ? nope
Scrat: davout: it does, it never blocks and it is also seeded from /dev/urandom (which never blocks
too)
mircea_popescu: davout
there's no dispute
that
the neckbeard collective is going away.
davout: i'll switch
to SpecCoin
imsaguy: but if you
try
to plug it into openssl,
they fail
mircea_popescu: blessfully iirc
that has no secret OPENSSL_CONFIG files needed.
davout: well, i don't know
the code very well, but i
think
the address generation part probably relies on openssl
mircea_popescu: my main concern is
that
the code is probably shit and we'll end up with weak keys
towards
the end
mircea_popescu: did you run strength analysis on
the keys or any soprt of cryptographic validation ?
davout: it pregenerates
the addies, so it eats entropy when you refill
the pool
imsaguy: or were you banned
there
too?
mircea_popescu: how exactly does it use
the entropy or wtf does it do ?
imsaguy: some people keep pools of
thousands
mircea_popescu: is
there a limit
to
the size of
the pool
that you can refill safely ?
truff1es: nothing gets
the point across more
than calling somone an idiot
imsaguy: its like listening
to an american pop song