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snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 10:56:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947781 << atm writing lengthy piece re subj (expecting to post fri/sat) and would rather not clutter the log w/ figures until then
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947800 << /me shall read this sunday, then.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947796 << while all the other chicks from her hometown were busy mommyblogging... diana_coman 's been... doing other things, check her out lol.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 16:28:01 bvt: some thoughts: currently feeder app takes 3% CPU @ ~2.4 kb/s when feeding data into O through HG, because the bottleneck is in FG reading, and lots of overhead seems to be coming from retarded tty interface, which forces reading of individual bytes.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 22:42:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 05:20:05 bvt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947746 << meanwhile figured out how to read from tty correctly, the updated number is 1.3%
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947788 << a there you go. now within what my notes claimed. still would like to minify it, but at least you know, livable.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in reality i dun think ever had this experience of 'do w/out trying', i suspect mp_en_viaje is drawing from own biography. asciilifeform was not 'child prodigy' and never had this .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 04:47:13 spyked: e right man for zee job, let's discuss a timeline.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947779 << this might even make the first time anyone was hired to do lisp work in like... fifty years.
asciilifeform actually had > beard in 20 than nao but dun want to ruin mp_en_viaje's flamemetaphor
mp_en_viaje: you have the great advantage of being able to "sprint" more than most, and do a lot of the homework "without even trying". but this is also readily a disadvantage.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 21:05:03 asciilifeform: ( recently, asciilifeform's brother : 'know what, mr p could design an os; you can't' a: 'why's that' b: 'he has the beard' )
mp_en_viaje: looky, you were a beardless 20yo at some point, but that's normal in boys. meanwhile you've made 30, and that's iffy. soon you'll be 40, just as boyish faced, and bitter-er for having watched all the others grow beards betimes all around.
asciilifeform: for what, exactly ? to meet the spec of a fella who aint even subscribing ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 19:01:43 asciilifeform: and incidentally, if asciilifeform cannot actually supply the service mp_en_viaje needs (e.g. if he needs a 24/7 staff of 4 working in shifts ) would rather know about it sooner than later.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947757 << quit squirming and making up bullshit. i don't need even the one full time guy ; YOU do.
mp_en_viaje: isn't that a pretty weird approach to your problem ? what are you, a woman ?!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 21:06:21 mp_en_viaje: and i do not say this idly ; i have made my own experiments as well as seen others', very EXPENSIVE, experiments in the same vein all over the world. people regularly sink billion+ in "tech incubator" producing nothing comparable.
asciilifeform: when , incidentally, will set the bozo bit on all the other useless dabblers ? throw out , for consistency, 'v', deedbot, auctionbot, all sewed by also folx who work for a living and managed to steal some time in which to do sumthing useful.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: uninterested -- then uninterested. and i'd rather find out nao, than later, so ty. i dun have the capital to spend fulltime, and find it odd that mp_en_viaje only nao realized this.
mp_en_viaje: for as long as your mentality stays "amateur dabbler in tmsr", i stay uninterested.
mp_en_viaje: it's whether you're going to be a professional.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:18:47 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: is this actual q, or simply constructed to give asciilifeform a banana to slip on ?
mp_en_viaje: ~this~ is the discriminant ; it's not a matter of how great you can do at the hobby of this, when "real life" permits. it's not how impressive, or above-others, or anything else your amateur effort might come to be.
mp_en_viaje: anything else -- if there's time. this, however, unconditionally.
mp_en_viaje: they're the first allocation of any conceptual month's 720 hours.
mp_en_viaje: those 200 hours / month come before the 30 or w/e you expend in the eating of food.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:21:18 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: propaganda/l2 growth is ~the~ project. and req's asciilifeform's 'weak arm' to properly exercise. which is 1 of the reasons i took up 'bake isp again'. but presently weak arm. intent is to use strong arm to build exercise machine for weak, among other.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 18:54:30 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re those '200 hrs' , if there are actually 200hr/mo required for any part of this, i'ma have to hire ( BingoBoingo ?? ) an assistant. i dun have 200h/mo hidden up sleeve.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947756 << you've got your priorities fucked up, evidently enough, which was the original problem ; and while you've been making disingenuous claims throughout, your dedication is still to protecting statu quo.
asciilifeform hasn't any time presently for 'shiny'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i promise -- not to.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: probably for the best too! this is on *him* to spend more time on before it can be of any use (if it can be of any use), not on you; and pretty please, don't go "shiny!!" at it, it's not helping him either.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i did not get chance to actually read any of it, and dun know when will, atm. comment strictly re interesting titles..
diana_coman: asciilifeform: yes, he has *something*; it's still on the to-figure-out list just what and so on; I'll update if/when something useful but not earlier and there's still quite a lot to clarify there even before spending any time on any code.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: iirc the point version your wp split from automattic shit-wp is very close to where mp-wp split from shit-wp.
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-23 asciilifeform: guten tag diana_coman . you may have noticed, i put back the bot . it was synced with the new autosyncer that was to get deployed right before piz burned down. i'ma put it as vpatch, but prolly wont get chance this wk, hands full w/ 2nd draft of ispism.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's orig. vtron did not make use of the net at all, runs a++ on boxes w/out nics, and imho this is Right Thing.
asciilifeform: fwiw a mp-wp extension that lets folx 'download these-here patches' imho may be useful. but really ought not to be ~in vtron~ .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 12:36:29 diana_coman: spyked: ha, that vpatch is interesting, I never really used the init part.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947792 << i also never used. in my eyes it smacked of 'svn', 'git', similar barbarisms; imho vpatches oughta be downloaded by hand, carefully, rather than to rely on mechanical 'load'em all' tricks.
asciilifeform: ( on costs piece however, spent no fewer than 11h! so asciilifeform is turtle. but sometimes turtle -- outruns achilles? maybe this will be the time? )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 08:07:58 spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947786 << i'd luvv to see an l1 rack in ro, spyked ! keep in mind tho that asciilifeform 'cheats', has long existing experience buying irons, automated filler for rk's, many yrs in salt mines where set up, maintained, racks of irons, networkisms.
asciilifeform: in re time, most of it went into the 1st draft of costs article ; in the rack itself so far spent 3h (5 if including going there and back; 7 if including initial tour & haggle. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 08:07:58 spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947786 << there was a 295 (u.s. $) deposit at the colo house , but the rest ( will detail in new article ) -- went for iron . ( even if had no rack -- it's time to replenish my depleted stock of iron. )
asciilifeform: r shite hosting in number of places, and nao dun have to..)
asciilifeform: spyked: the flip side of this, is that my rack is ~cheap~. so cheap that my ~post box~ at the post office costs almost half of it . its expense is somewhere b/w my water bill and mains current bill. i picked it up with the knowledge that if i am unable to make satisfactory arrangements to sell space in it to respectable folx, it can indefinitely serve as personal net hosting yacht for asciilifeform (who was paying through the nose fo
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:55:54 spyked: also, I think this is useful as a feedback/reflective instrument. if you make expectation for next 3 months, then in 3 months you have something clear to eval, adjust etc. otherwise it's just ???
asciilifeform: oduct that they will come to see as inadequate.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947784 << will say this : several folx expressed interest. but presently i do not know if will have ~any~ takers: for instance mp & diana_coman have very specific reqs that i dunno if can in fact fill. they might have to make own, heavy-industrial hosting system. all depends there on outcome of the costs-draft-then-flame process. i do not want to somehow bamboozle folx into buying pr
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 11:13:46 asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947781 << atm writing lengthy piece re subj (expecting to post fri/sat) and would rather not clutter the log w/ figures until then
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 12:13:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect to move entirely to mp's wp when i get to moving www finally. but atm hands quite full. ( it'll be somewhat tricky, will have to port the coad printer extension thing to it, and various other things i changed over 12yrs+ of my www)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:36:55 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947642 <-- eh, not that much work. it took me like a week, and all this proceeding from custom-baked lisp blog
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947775 << i'ma do it whether takes little work or much, my wp is obsolete . suspected that 'much' simply because i have custom renderisms in mine, for the 'peh' examples.
diana_coman: spyked: I think it was initially tailor-made for trb really, hence the odd stuff.
spyked: when I first looked into it, I found it a little odd myself, since it expects a particular URL structure, e.g. mp-wp/v/{patches,seals}. but then I got used to it and even adjusted my v mirror to match. afaik v.pl is the only vtron that comes with this functionality
diana_coman: spyked: ha, that vpatch is interesting, I never really used the init part.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/vpl-v-patch-syncing-bug-fix << The Tar Pit -- v.pl V patch syncing bug fix
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 16:28:01 bvt: some thoughts: currently feeder app takes 3% CPU @ ~2.4 kb/s when feeding data into O through HG, because the bottleneck is in FG reading, and lots of overhead seems to be coming from retarded tty interface, which forces reading of individual bytes.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 22:42:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
bvt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947746 << meanwhile figured out how to read from tty correctly, the updated number is 1.3%
spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
spyked: from my read of the post and discussion, that is
spyked: also, I think this is useful as a feedback/reflective instrument. if you make expectation for next 3 months, then in 3 months you have something clear to eval, adjust etc. otherwise it's just ???
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 11:13:46 asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
spyked: and regardless, I'd like to at the very least see the deedbot sources published, so lemme know if I can do anything to help in that direction
spyked: e right man for zee job, let's discuss a timeline.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 12:19:48 trinque: on that subj, if there's someone interested in paid work on deedbot, see me! I'm not very good at growing arms.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947307 <-- defo interested and my schedule is open for changes/amendments come november. I am currently working a full-time saeculum gig, so I wouldn't be able to take this as a full-time thing, but I could do this in small weekly/monthly pieces, as with previous published work. so if you think this works and I'm th
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 12:13:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect to move entirely to mp's wp when i get to moving www finally. but atm hands quite full. ( it'll be somewhat tricky, will have to port the coad printer extension thing to it, and various other things i changed over 12yrs+ of my www)
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947642 <-- eh, not that much work. it took me like a week, and all this proceeding from custom-baked lisp blog
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:38:08 mp_en_viaje: and since doing this, hey spyked ? you ever been across ocean ?
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947571 <-- haven't been anywhere west of paris yet and of course would like to. I'm considering the possibility of spyked in cr 2020
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/margaret-cavendish-retard-of-newcastle-upon-tyne/ << Trilema -- Margaret Cavendish, Retard of Newcastle-upon-Tyne
asciilifeform: mebbe whole thing falls apart nao !1111
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 17:58:20 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ftr asciilifeform's next agenda item, after cost sheet , is to put the logger back into service. 'ddos magnet', get some genuine picture of what this pipe can stand.
asciilifeform promised to put this right after 1st cost draft ; nao onto 2nd...
asciilifeform: ladies & gentlemen, please welcome back the designated ddos magnet, snsabot .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 14:51:29 mp_en_viaje: people ~never change the machine names ; websites come and go. so i'd say 1/3 to 1/2 of the internet's like that.
asciilifeform discovered today -- similarly to earlier find -- that his new ip range once housed a (long-dead) 'nudecelebritease.com' .
BingoBoingo: billymg: ty
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 16:35:04 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell billymg http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=9r9U
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947738 << BingoBoingo: got it, thanks
asciilifeform: ( 'do you expect me to...' 'no, mr. bond! we expect you to DIE!!!!'(tm)(r) )
asciilifeform: and incidentally, if asciilifeform cannot actually supply the service mp_en_viaje needs (e.g. if he needs a 24/7 staff of 4 working in shifts ) would rather know about it sooner than later.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re those '200 hrs' , if there are actually 200hr/mo required for any part of this, i'ma have to hire ( BingoBoingo ?? ) an assistant. i dun have 200h/mo hidden up sleeve.
asciilifeform: will detail this in rewritten piece .
asciilifeform: ( concretely : 4 'dulap'-style units , while (w/ mp_en_viaje-corrected set of constants) putting op +240 in +ev, in fact exhausts the energy allotment (not overruns, but leaves room only for rk plant.) and there already were requested, counting everyone who answered, tentatively 4 dulap's worth . (5 if counting shared-box) . )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not done w/ the 2nd set of numerics yet, but seems i may have ~opposite~ problem atm
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947743 << to olazy to look, maybe just shitty internets.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 16:30:20 bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947556 << well, as long as selection procedure is rational, can always explain why have chosen this one and explicitly say that this is not an endorsement.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947731 << i do not believe this actually does anything. you can for the same money chant above the creampie, it'll do exactly as much.
mp_en_viaje: so i guess that tty interface will have to be fixed ? or wtf ?!