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asciilifeform: note the existence of China's "Dragon" CPU effort, or the Russian equivalent
asciilifeform: a system which includes consumer PC components or traditional software is insecure from birth.
asciilifeform: of the military kind
asciilifeform: and so, one can use any of a thousand commercial fpga dev boards
asciilifeform: I'm thinking of a node (not a miner, note) written for a custom architecture, running on an fpga (of the client's choice)
pgp: but that requires a transaction to specify me as an output - what we need is a generalized method of paying a node operator who identity is not known at the time the transaction is submitted...
mircea_popescu: considering how poorly that fares yet, too soon.
mircea_popescu: however, the asic production is the gateway to thgat.
asciilifeform: that is to say, a box that implements a full node, from scratch, with no unix/c/c++/code written by anyone in the past on it. with complete docs under NDA.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelated thought: do you suppose there could be a market for a hardware implementation of Bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: the accounting for this is nontrivial.
asciilifeform: pgp: just run a node that demands to be paid X satoshi before it relays transactions <=Y satoshi.
mircea_popescu: you're thinking insoluble/irresolvable/etc
mircea_popescu: fundamental simply means that it was there at the time of its birth
asciilifeform: pgp: "fundamental" problem implies that it could not be dealt with other than by breaking the protocol, no?
asciilifeform: the devs' decision bothers me for "meta" reasons. that is, the dev team has enough influence that it could add all kinds of vaguely questionable things and they will come into use on the majority of the network.
mircea_popescu: so this definition of one isn't very good :)
mircea_popescu: depend a lot on the definitions of one and easily.
asciilifeform: one could easily add relay fees without breaking the protocol.
asciilifeform: almost seems like this is a deliberate ploy to prolong the life of litecoin.
mircea_popescu: May 05 22:23:44 <mircea_popescu>tbh the no-relay-fee is probably the grossest fundamental oversight in the design of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: May 05 22:23:07 <mircea_popescu>consequently there's no way to outcompete dust txs, cause you don't pay a fee to be relayed
mircea_popescu: May 05 22:22:42 <mircea_popescu>ah, actually, there is a reason
mircea_popescu: May 05 22:22:16 <mircea_popescu>im not sure why they're not just letting the tx fee decide
dub: ie, protects noobs from long txn delays
mircea_popescu: lemme find the chat
dub: I thought it just discouraged people from sending amounts that are too small to be relayed anyway
mircea_popescu: not enough full nodes running, and there's no relay tx fee so there's no way to limit uneconomic mempool use
asciilifeform: how's that?
mircea_popescu: been discussed before : they have no options
asciilifeform: seems like the "official" dev team has declared war on SDICE.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's your take on this abomination: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196138.0
mircea_popescu: well, if it goes to 80 i stand to make what, 10k or so ?
pgp: I tend to agree that 100 will likely hold, but chart say to me "retest"
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.04981, Best ask: 112.05525, Bid-ask spread: 0.00544, Last trade: 112.04980, 24 hour volume: 62523.10961762, 24 hour low: 109.50000, 24 hour high: 116.77700, 24 hour vwap: 113.32966
mircea_popescu: whenever this guy sells puts the price drops
mircea_popescu: dude this is insane
pgp: i agree - price is rolling over - we'll retest 100 i think
KRS1: market price gonna drop i think
inhies: hrm, maybe my dumbass thought there was an extra zero in there
inhies: accept my transaction
mircea_popescu: snatch is sort of loosely inspiredby it i think
mircea_popescu: ah i think i remember that one
inhies: too bad homie didnt take out the trash correctly
toffoo: but no, the book was about an older one where they robbed the antwerp diamond center
toffoo: when you first posted that i thought it might be the same
toffoo: mircea_popescu i recently finished a book called 'Flawless' about another belgian diamond heist .. which i think they got away with
mircea_popescu: check it out, they caught the ocean eleven ppls.
benkay: how does the shmarbitrage on asicminer look across btctc and havelock and all dem?
ThickAsThieves: they used to have the highest AM volume til this week
ThickAsThieves: I'm kinda surprised that shares aren't selling better on Bitfunder
mircea_popescu: (you won't get anyone but nerds in the sort of groupthink traps that this sort of stuff is dangertous for)
mircea_popescu: maybe. tbh i think lower impact exactly for that reason
dub: mircea_popescu: no but possibly bigger impact given bitcoin is no longer a toy for nerds
mircea_popescu: dub possibly. not quite the size tho
Diablo-D3: dub: that would be hilarious wouldnt it
dub: can't shake the feeling that AM is going to be the next pirate level event
jborkl: I have a decent amount, but I dont want to sell yet
ThickAsThieves: I have more to sell no worried
topace: and thats without any sort of announcement going out to current havelock customers :p
topace: jborkl: yea tell ThickAsThieves to add more! he's running it :p
benkay: that'd ASICplain things
jborkl: you are going to sell out soon at this rate
benkay: havelock's got some volume today
mod6: I really like those. :]
mod6: Just lookin at the stuff listed on other sites... I guess they didn't get the memo on PGP contracts.
ThickAsThieves: Official forum thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199449.0
ThickAsThieves: The TAT Investments Empire has grown!
assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
ThickAsThieves: looks like some people are having lag issues at BTCT too
deadweasel: i would send an email immediately, just because response times will vary, then ignore it for 5 hours, check again.
inhies: deadweasel: looks like we're coming up on an hour.t he timestamp in the history page is 2013-05-08 20:35:42
kakobrekla: anyway nvm i thought it was smth else
inhies: deadweasel: ive had that happen too, but ive never had blockchain.info say it couldnt find a transaction at all
mpexbot: dub: 1705 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-05-06 10:36:00
ThickAsThieves: and if you pass it, you must wait for Burnside to manually process it
ThickAsThieves: also remember that BTCT has a daily withdrawal limit
deadweasel: but that is rare
deadweasel: inhies, it's possible it just hasn't been picked for a block yet. I've had txns sit in 'pools' for 12 hours at worst, before seeing the first confirmation.
jurov: well, apparently it is possible..only roads are still full of potholes and public transport has to use 25 year old trams/buses...
inhies: all the other times it's been supar fast
inhies: deadweasel: will do, thanks
inhies: it was down the other week and i stopped caring
jurov: if the tx it isn't there either (and you didn't do a typo) then its' btct problem
jurov: inhies, try searching on https://blockexplorer.com/ too
deadweasel: follow those two
deadweasel: just put in the receiving wallet address or the sending.
inhies: deadweasel: yea i knew that, but the txid for my trasnaction is 'not found' on the site =/
deadweasel: but i guess it's all the same thing
deadweasel: that's just 'getting things done'... corruption has a darker overtone for me.
kakobrekla: i think we are just most honest
deadweasel: sounds like you two are doing a corruption eiffel tower on the rest of hte EU. well done!
deadweasel: see the big red button that says "unconfirmed transaction!"?
inhies: is it normal for a btc withdrawal transaction from btct.co to not be found on blockchain.ingo?
jurov: are there any bets about asicminer bubble popping?
ThickAsThieves: link to what?
error4733: i sold my ripple :greed: i got some fresh btc to throw in a other scam
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