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jurov: okay jcpham, go back polishing your
tesla.. oh moment, before
that
tell me, did elon apologize
to ny
times?
truff1es: there are 3 different
topics going on at least
jcpham: sorry i'm not paying attention
to your conversation
truff1es: <benkay> just 'cause you can't parse
the idea doesn't mean anything,
truff1es. >>> means something imo
jcpham: nerdgasm all over
the batteries
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> nowhere on
this planet are
the unprogrammed
to be found en masse. << unprogramming is actually
trivially simple
to do.
takes about
two weeks.
jcpham: tesla should just a bitcoin client in
the car
jcpham: or do i have
to keep waiting
jcpham: can invest in
Tesla yet with my bitcoins directly
benkay: that a
thing happened.
mircea_popescu: much like
the red marking on
the girl's ass perpetuates
the switch vibration long after
the switch has rested.
KRS-1: idk bout
that htough
mircea_popescu: but
then again his caring is what'll perpetuate it, if even in
the negative
KRS-1: folks starting
to predict sub $90 dollar market price now
mircea_popescu: tbh, it probably could be said
that unlike
the moldbug fellow i have
the advantage of not reallty giving a shiot avbout
the us government
benkay: just 'cause you can't parse
the idea doesn't mean anything,
truff1es.
truff1es: well writing betrays intent, if you cant convey
the idea well it just falls flat
benkay: jurov, I
think
that's a meta-joke. "none of
this matters anyways because
the
thing I'm
trying
to
tell you ruins your life regularly will ruin your life about
this as well."
benkay: I don't know
that MP cares about convincing a small slice of
the American
technocracy
that
the USG is broken and/or dying.
jurov: he seems
to go into lengthy elaborations only
to end each article "usg will kill it anyway"
benkay: sure. i hold
that "honesty" is incompatible with his goals, which are
to further derail already degrading programming.
truff1es: he's
too verbose and repetitive..
benkay: but if you need
to break
through a firewall...
benkay: (to get excessively nerdy with
the metaphors)
benkay: now, MP, what if
the borgs are so
thoroughly programmed
that
their filters just escape anything
that
threatens
the binary?
jurov: "I promise -
this is my last Bitcoin post. I fear it attracts low-quality
traffic."
mircea_popescu: if you want
to get
the borgs
to revolt, it's one way
to
tell
the borgs here's what you are, here's how
things work, get fucked
benkay: mircea_popescu, where's
the dishonesty in MM's work?
truff1es: i guess i cant be
too hard on mp, English is his 2nd language right
mircea_popescu: i push
the submission/dominance
trip in
those fields where people are
totally off
the deep end with
the "i can do everything" and "agreement makes it real" nonsense
mircea_popescu: benkay only in
those parts where "common agreement" diverges
too much
towards "lalala i can make it so"
benkay: you push
the 'life is all domination and submission at all scales'
trip
benkay: he's marketeering new paradigms
to undermine
the legitimacy of
the USG. I can get behind
that.
mircea_popescu: if it's not clear, what i was saying is obvious is
the observation
that "he's
trying
to implant viral ideas into"
benkay: independent of
the writing?
jurov: guys, who is
this moldbug? some mythical figure?
benkay: understanding (again, I
think)
that
there's an infinite well of humans who might receive your ideas.
benkay: you, I don't
think, care
terribly about keeping
the systems you operate on intact.
benkay: he just wants
to perform low-level hardware attacks on complete systems.
truff1es: Mencius is a contraian, how could i hate
that
pgp: who is going
to bitcoin conference?
benkay: mircea_popescu: he has a different agenda. using
that word would drive off
the soft-minded he's
trying
to implant viral ideas into.
benkay: thestringpuller I am genuinely interested in
the series of events
that pushed you back into
the ivory
tower
truff1es: its hard
to handle if
they have no balls
to speak back
to u, u know
benkay: originating in
the murkey intuitive parts of my brain
truff1es: <benkay> mencius modbug. if you can't handle MP, you really can't handle MM.>>>> why doeth
thou
thinket
that i cannot handlet him?
BitHub: satoshi -
the father figure we've all been waiting for
benkay: well,
things
that are related
to
the real world
benkay: the only way
to understand someone's politics is
to fucking
talk
to
them about
things
that are not politics
thestringpuller: My political discourse usually involves: allowing people
to have a choice, vs. not allowing
them
to make a choice.
truff1es: <thestringpuller> I'm not very political.>>> what does
this even mean, u dont vote?
benkay: except maybe MM with his "reactionary"
thing
benkay: no human with opinions worth paying attention
to is a strict any one of
those
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> pop culture entrepreneurship involves creating a problem
that really doesn't exist and marketing a solution
to it,
to grab
the next round of funding from
the daddy figure you never had growing up << amazinglty apt summary
benkay: if you ask infinity
times does it matter?
truff1es: if i ask 3rd
time does
that mean im really really really interested in
the answer hmm
benkay: I'm missing
the last pieces in how you got fucked for practicing some sort of atypical entrepreneurship.
thestringpuller: you could either build
the automation yourself, or buy it from someone else.
truff1es: is
thestringpuller libertarianian?
benkay: "technically useful" bro has you ever done
the distributed
teams
thing?
thestringpuller: Github is
technically useful, but I see where you are going.
benkay: all
these all also fall into
the bucket of "bullshit we do
to make more bullshit for idiots"
benkay: but
that works all
the
time in america
jurov: ThickAsThieves, I would use some other word
than "fractional".. it may have unwanted associations :D
thestringpuller: pop culture entrepreneurship involves creating a problem
that really doesn't exist and marketing a solution
to it,
to grab
the next round of funding from
the daddy figure you never had growing up
thestringpuller: the key
to
true entrepreneurship means solving a legitimate problem
truff1es: are you libertarian should be
the 1st question
thestringpuller: I
think mircea_popescu is one of
the flagship authors on
the subject of "pop-culture entrepreneurship in
the land of capitalism"
thestringpuller: benkay: I did find a shop where
that is encouraged.
Too bad capitalist countries don't condone
true entrepreneurship
pgp: interesting - only 43k volume in last 24h... VERY light
trading...
benkay: it's a shame you didn't find a shop where
that kind of spirit is encouraged