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blehg: Havelock doesn't have options, do
they
blehg: need
to build buy support
blehg: price going up
too fast
furuknap: Wallet, I guess. Not sure.
Trading seems extremely slow if you buy an order
that
targets multiple offers,
though. Not really sure what's going on
there.
inhies: i dont see a reason
to have it
that integrated.. like wtf depends on it
that much?
furuknap: burnside has been working on
the bitcoind issue. It's horribly slow still,
though.
ThickAsThieves: the weex setup also allows bf
to run much faster without bitcoind
blehg: but
the option rewriting on bitfunder is pretty messy, and exercising options has info from
the wrong options in
the confirmation dialog -- hope
they fix
that
blehg: websocket on
the order books is awesome, beats
the hell out of btct's cached orders from yesterday showing up -- freaked me out a few
times
furuknap: Ah. Any functionality
they have
that for example BTCT doesn't have?
furuknap: Nah, I'll stick with BTCT. I get my stuff done
there for
the
time being.
furuknap: Just cuz
the wee-thing looks... weird. Have
tried several
times
to register. Something went wrong. And yes,
that was
the entire error message.
furuknap: Like I said, I don't
trust
the site.
furuknap: Yeah,
that would require me
to register.
blehg: you can disable
the chart
furuknap: I hate
the Bitfunder site.
Takes almost a minute
to load
the first chart for me and I can't get myself
to
trust
that
two-site
thing with wee exchange.
furuknap: Serious or joking on
the 400 calls? I haven't seen any volume on BTCT.
furuknap: Yeah... I have a red SF bridge on sale
too. You send first.
blehg: oh *that* call at 2.7 .. yah I bought
that X 5
furuknap: Why not buy anything. A strike of 2.7?
That's confidence or stupidity at a level I have not yet seen.
furuknap: Someone must hav bought not knowing what
they were doing.
furuknap: I hope not, otherwise I
think I'd have
to break
the rule about slapping in here.
furuknap: And
three at strike ฿2.1. What's wrong with people?
cole_albon: are
there any step-by-step instructions on how
to exercise a call on mpex?
nospinzy: if i were
to
type in in
the console
nospinzy: what is
the proper output format from
the bitcoin sendmany using
this format sendmany <fromaccount> {address:amount,...}
furuknap: Buy-a-hash got listed on LTCGlobal last night (my
time, or around 6 hours ago) it seems. Anyone read up on it?
furuknap: Still annoying. At least have
the decency
to undercut with some effort.
parseval: It's a script doing
that. Notice it always updates within 5 minutes
parseval: BTC-TC will always fill
the higher priced order first..
there's no way
to choose which. So,
the bots work
the margins as long as
they're at
that .2% difference or more
furuknap: That's not just for AM, btw. Seems
to apply
to every market in BTC and LTC.
ThickAsThieves: people always feel
the need
to lower
their ask when i match it
furuknap: Why
the heck
to people bit 0.0001 below ask?
furuknap: 2->3 BTC=50% increase. 0.75->2 = 166% increase. Not much more 'easy' money
to be made, even if it reaches ฿3.
Namworld: I should have put all my money on
that
furuknap: Bruised feelings because people
that don't act rational when
they buy sure as heck dont' act rational when
they have lost.
blehg: hope it
takes a couple of days
to break 2.0
furuknap: Yeah, and if
that's
that,
there will be w alot of bruised feelings here
too.
furuknap: I can almost
time visits
to my article with sudden price hikes in AM. I'm saddened by
the amount of people
that don't heed simple advice and just
throw money into a game
they apparently do not understand. No wonder why casinos make a lot of money...
furuknap: Yeah, a lot of bruised feelings will probably make
that happen unless
they cough up.
furuknap: I'm starting
to wonder whether
that "How
to buy AM shares" article was a huge mistake.
cole_albon: ThickAsThieves - no more spammy address
thanks for
the wake up call
furuknap: If
they sell and appreciate all
those bees
this week,
there's going
to be a lot of blood.
ThickAsThieves: since
then
the blades are made
to order with bulk pricing
Namworld: That's what made
the dividend so high?
ThickAsThieves: im more worried if
they DO have good hardware sales
this next div
parseval: They're selling hardware in addition
to mining
parseval: I
think
the hardware sales were .021 of
the recent dividend
KRS1: unless we're not
talking about AM here
KRS1: i dont
think
that would fly normally..hardware used for revenue needs
to be depreciated and wrote off doesnt it
parseval: I
think a few people might be in for a letdown when
the next dividends come back with less
than
this week due
to reduced hardware sales
parseval: Some reason
to avoid
them? I know Havelock has an budding API, but
they don't quite have
the breadth of assets
ThickAsThieves: parseval before you focus on btctc we should
talk sometime
parseval: They already have mechanisms in place with
their API
to ease
the
transfer of assets. I'm sure mpex does as well, but I've never had an account
there
ripplebandit_com: it's actually a serious question. Ive got an mpex seat, and would like
to resell it like coinbr
parseval: bitcoin, probably with a 6 confirmation requirement for funds
to settle
ripplebandit_com: parseval what paltform would you do
this on? ripple? open
transactions?
parseval: hmm, good point on
the arbitration. I'd have
to figure something out about
that
to minimize
the shorting aspect
parseval: One
thought I had was
that if
this could be marketed
to
the daytraders at Gox successfully,
then
they'd start investing some of
that BTC into securities
kakobrekla: i
took gigamining for a month or so loan, valued
them at 60%,
took
the divs and asked for 1% on
top of it.
parseval: That's
the idea,
ThickAsThieves. I'd pull
the BTC-TC shares
to a
third party account
to lock
them down, and
take a 1% fee for facilitating
the
transaction
kakobrekla: or else ill just default
the loan if
the shares go down
kakobrekla: you must undervalue
the shares correctly
parseval: Say 5% or whatever
terms both parties are willing
to accept.
The borrower puts up
the shares at X collateral, and investors can browse and pick which loans
they want
to fund
parseval: Not nothing..
they'd pay out an interest rate on
the loan
to
the lender
parseval: Well, yeah, you _can_ get your divs back, if
the system is set up
to
track
them and pay
them out. And volatility is a risk, but requiring a minimum 120% collateral would mitigate
that somewhat and
the lender would need
to agree
to
the collateral and
terms
kakobrekla: that way i could estimate
the devaluation easier