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ThickAsThieves: this is getting tricky for me
ThickAsThieves: can i thank people?
furuknap: They do. They talk about me all the time. At times, they have had daily meeting about me.
ThickAsThieves: those devs in redmond must feel pretty special then
furuknap: You're allowed to do whatever you will, but hating seems somewhat counter productive and thus wouldn't make you much of a Thelemite.
ThickAsThieves: Are thelemites allowed to hate
furuknap: In some cases, that declaration is implied. 'Everyone' that reads my SharePoint stuff know most of my opinions, and for those that don't, I have made them clear no numerous and public occasions. I don't need to say in every article that "I do not approve of SharePoint Server, I love SharePoint Foundation, I hate certain members of the SharePoint dev team in Redmond, I like certain members of the community" and so on.
furuknap: ...or will be perceived as such. Declaration of interests make the reader aware of any bias and can evaluate the information in that light.
ThickAsThieves: you are biased to making it your idea of unbiased
truffles: or in making clear it fixes that
ThickAsThieves: i try to disclaim likely bias when appropriate
truffles: so if i think your information is biased and state reasons xy, that wont affect u?
furuknap: I know there are many :-)
furuknap: [17:14] <truffles> im viewing it as, u think ur info will be so factual that none will think otherwise > I still do not care what others think. I care about what I think.
ThickAsThieves: do you think there are any black Thelemites?
mircea_popescu: the topic is now niggers.
furuknap: I'm talking to you because my statements about AM was a matter of discussion and part of that discussion was the analysis I had made that showed AM had no chance in hell to make back investments at these levels. I said I would publish those numbers but decided as a matter of fairness to instead publish a simplified method for determining it yourself.
ThickAsThieves: why even talk to us
furuknap: Your desires are also not very interesting to me. You may want all you like.
ThickAsThieves: i have no way to dismantle it
ThickAsThieves: i want to see your raw assessment
furuknap: That is your opinion and like I said, does not affect mine. If you don't understand, I have no problems with that.
truffles: im viewing it as, u think ur info will be so factual that none will think otherwise
ThickAsThieves: is to care about perception
ThickAsThieves: I think to dwell on these things
ThickAsThieves: without some sort of validation, your actions to maintain pride would remain unconfirmed
furuknap: However, I care about my pride, and I want to be proud of what I do because it is the best I can do. If I do not accomplish that, I have not done my best, which is a strike on my abilities. It's a long, long conversation, though, and whether someone understands that is irrelevant, and I have no need to explain.
ThickAsThieves: why tell us at all?
ThickAsThieves: it is my opinion that if you seek out a name for yourself and subscribe to a belief, you are already failing to be what you say you are
ThickAsThieves: i don't wanna get too abstract but
furuknap: What is unlikely? That I'm a Thelemite?
furuknap: truffles, I care for myself and myself only. I am a Thelemite, so it is in my nature. I care not for what others think of me, not even what my immediate family thinks of me, much less some random strangers on the interwebs.
Chaaang-Noi: want to smoke a cuban cigar, yet has no knife to cut it.... 1st world problemz :(
furuknap: mp, I am the asshole, just ask anyone in the SharePoint community :-)
ThickAsThieves: otherwise you are working to manipulate people to believe you are neutral
mircea_popescu: being an asshole works too. most people can't distinguish these anyway.
truffles: furuknap do u mean that ull try ur best to be neutral and will feel wronged if others perceive otherwise
ThickAsThieves: and that requires not caring what people think
ThickAsThieves: is to be neutral
mircea_popescu: this is the interwebs.
ThickAsThieves: the only way to have a chance of being received as neutral
furuknap: That's not what I was saying, but hey, you interpret it the way that makes you comfortable.
ThickAsThieves: I don't care about their perception, except for when I do
ThickAsThieves: you realize the contradiction there, right?
furuknap: I don't care about their perception, I care about my perception. If I come about as someone that even in the remotest of possibilities may say something for any other purpose than neutral information, I've failed and thus need to reevaluate my approach.
Chaaang-Noi: all current buyers are current true belivers
furuknap: This is a personal thing, but to me, my integrity is extremely important to me. Even the suggestion from someone that I may be 'talking AM down (or up)' is a taint on my perception of that integrity, which is why I've been quiet in the forums the past few days.
truffles: AM buyers are the true believers?
ThickAsThieves: 3. If they are a market leader and also sell hardware, only chance
ThickAsThieves: 2. If they do, it'll be garbage soon enough
ThickAsThieves: 1. If they don't reinvest, it's TOTAL garbage
ThickAsThieves: it's not hard to explain the pitfalls of investing in typical mining assets
Chaaang-Noi: you wont be able to talk the price of AM down, even if what you say is sound
ThickAsThieves: if it's not, anyone that says it is, is a turd
ThickAsThieves: i still don't see why you think anyone cares about possible price manip
furuknap: I'll explain a slightly simplified method of the one I'm using, because it is easier to understand and doesn't require too much speculation.
furuknap: I've decided that rather than publish my numbers on ASICMiner, I'm going to write a guide on how to evaluate mining companies and their shares. This seems more fair because it will not speak directly to AM (which could be argued is an attempt at price manipulation) while at the same time applies to any mining operation, past, present, or future.
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 12043187.5499 based on data since last change | 12105409.3926 based on data for last three days
furuknap: Trending upwards, hence the cross.
truffles: price seems stable this week
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.60004, Best ask: 122.60005, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 122.60004, 24 hour volume: 12441.92547781, 24 hour low: 122.51100, 24 hour high: 124.50101, 24 hour vwap: 123.23513
furuknap: Last time that happened, price went from 126 to 165 in four days.
furuknap: 1 day EMA 10/21 on BTC price just crossed again. First time cross since May 3 and first time positive since April 20. Good times ahead.
furuknap: I was out so only saw through remote access so couldn't respond then...
furuknap: Someone asked earlier what BASIC maining uses for mining. List is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130982.0, mostly consisting of older GPUs. They have two Avalons (one #2, one #3) on order.
truffles: "People said that Bitcoin would never work and only idiots would pay real money for some bytes which geeks calculate in their basements."
truffles: i multi task u know
Chaaang-Noi: the rest of the chan shoudl get it, and lol how he left the plates showing on his struck
Chaaang-Noi: before your time
truffles: pirates of the caribbean?
truffles: oh did mp's troll army do something major?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, any of you ppl watching the something awful fun ?
truffles: hmm he struggled towards end of video..
ThickAsThieves: like he should be an extra that gets shot in Transporter 5
ThickAsThieves: his accent agitates me too
Chaaang-Noi: i dont know, iv not seen the video
Chaaang-Noi: he might be the right guy to reach them
Chaaang-Noi: well the people who watch RT are kinda far out there
truffles: if there are many voices, then he wont be so bad..
ThickAsThieves: aww i thought i invented a word
truffles: well i guess i must take it back heh
ThickAsThieves: as if taaki is leading a revolution of weirdos
ThickAsThieves: and the news channel makes it worse
ThickAsThieves: yeah but taaki comes of as vagrant gutter punk militia
Chaaang-Noi: fuck i wont go on tv
Chaaang-Noi: or death and taxes
truffles: to connect to the non-nerds u kinda have to show some passion
Chaaang-Noi: they should put mike caldwell on tv
truffles: u dont like his passionate talks TAT
ThickAsThieves: lol at the video of DC monuments while taaki rants
Chaaang-Noi: well, at least they are not interviewing the bitcoin foundation...
kakobrekla: taki is the bfl of btc
Chaaang-Noi: i dot have the files able to run that video, he said he wrote the source code??
ThickAsThieves: takki is the heart of the bitcoin system?
Chaaang-Noi: irc, btc why would you not think we are computer nerds?
truffles: seemed like a few were not the whole channel..
Chaaang-Noi: you know this is not only a bitcoin irc chan, but one devoted to using it as an economy, as in the hard hard hard core of the geeks who use btc
kakobrekla: now he claims he wrote the entire bitcoin completley
truffles: i guess none is excited for the defeat of team USA in world hockey
mircea_popescu: many cunts to you!