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jurov: yes, some ppl don't have a clue to ask
punkman: jurov, don't they get stuck with a bunch of mediocre watermelons then? or do they sell them to the next sucker
jurov: punkman: they can't make small triangle cut into the melon? here it's usual
punkman: I mostly buy local fruit, but fuckers still can't wait until it's ripe enough
pankkake: but they aren't necessarily the same
unbalanced: You just knew about the max 4x diff jump, I haven't heard many people who know that. But I suppose it makes sense that everyone here would.
unbalanced: You don't need it with LeaseRig.net, see the pastebin somewhere 8 miles up.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: I don't have hash...
mircea_popescu: mike_c from what i recall BingoBoingo wasn't too adverse to the jumps
mircea_popescu: unbalanced i don't actually have any
mike_c: like i said, i don't think this is any kind of life & death thing. it's smoothing out an annoyance.
mike_c: JD wouldn't be happy if gamblers had to wait 1-2 hours to deposit money
mircea_popescu: i really don't see th econcern. if anything, slow txn are good for a coin, they keep the people in a hurry at bay
mircea_popescu: mike_c haven't heard from the satoshijack dude in a long time
mike_c: i ran the numbers, but I won't tell if you don't want to know :)
unbalanced: The diff is still unfolding so I don't have a final number yet. I haven't wanted to calculate it or I might stop.
mircea_popescu: mike_c they don't seem to be hurting anything tho do they ?
mike_c: i don't worry about the coin dying, but +80%/-80% diff changes are annoying.
mike_c: yeah. i don't know if it's the right thing to do, but I do think it's worth trying.
unbalanced: I figure that the -25% to -50% range is desirable, as long as it doesn't fall so far someone can't easily spike it up 4x again.
unbalanced: Ah. I was going to ask you why they print on that orange-pink paper. Don't dodge the question!
mircea_popescu: decimation see ? shouldn't he be here ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no see, wouldn't that make perfect sense ?
decimation: I'm surprised HP isn't trying to build an fpga with precisely this
asciilifeform: decimation: you don't need an address space as such if anything that might conceivably need to communicate with, e.g., keyboard, has an actual (matrix switched) electrical connection with it.
decimation: if you had such a beast, you just peek and poke at its inputs/outputs, it wouldn't really have an address space
unbalanced: Don't I need 2 hit points? Or just the one?
decimation: why can't folks simply "re-imagine" the legos they have in front of them?
mircea_popescu: aren't you all spiffy nao
BingoBoingo: The reason I didn't recommend Seahorse is it is a pain. Geany has a spell checker at least.
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/ << doesn't this sound like i could have written it ?
unbalanced: Or if one of these sent me to Seahorse months ago I don't see it now.
unbalanced: So secret I can't even remember what it may or may not have said, if it even exists.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why anything more is needed or desirable than the latter.
unbalanced: I don't like to assume anything when it comes to crypto.
justusranvier: There are better ways of achieving privacy that aren't quite so fragile
justusranvier: This isn't even a particularly good tool, and it breakes blockchain.info mixing: http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/
justusranvier: Sure, but that can't traced its history
justusranvier: Cash doesn't have an eternal, publicly searchable ledger
unbalanced: I don't have a lot of hardware is why... at the time I was on a Windows machine using a Linux VM. Now I'm pure. Linux.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier "Using the global public ledger that allows for multilateral decision making means that retaining financial privacy is, to put it lightly, problematic. It’s possible to achieve, but doing so is a difficult and delicate process where mistakes are easy to make and also permanent." i don't understand this part, at all.
unbalanced: But before I do, I agree MP, I didn't take not winning the hackathon badly, I only said my thing wasn't "good enough" because a) it wasn't all done in time and b) my math was less than accurate. Empirically not good enough for anyone to use.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: If you did the GPG guide that's the hard part... registering with gribble doesn't hurt at all
mircea_popescu: i don't believe this crap is aptly described as optimism.
unbalanced: I usually *give off* the cray-cray vibe when it comes to Bitcoin. Didn't expect people could outdo me for tech optimism.
unbalanced: I didn't win a top place... my stuff wasn't good enough but more importantly it seemed, not "decentralized" enough.
justusranvier: It doesn't look so good for the appcoin pumpers
assbot: Maidsafe and Mastercoin: The first crypto-coin Kickstarter was a wildly successful $7 million disaster. http://t.co/YllunlEBOZ
mthreat: he also corrected me when I said i'd seen a pic of him with an ak-47. apparently it wasn't an ak
mthreat: actually i think he said c32, which i didn't even know existed
mircea_popescu: course mine wasn't an actual c64, butmoar like a clone48
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
kakobrekla: USD when comparing it over time. The performance we've had is astounding, and just because it lags behind the performance of Bitcoin should not take away from that. We've still managed to outperform more than 99% of the other things you could have spent your BTC on. Silver for example was $28.50 on our IPO date and is $19.50 now, yet I don't see you trolling silver dealers on here.
asciilifeform: i still remember the shock of encountering widgets that resembled actual comp but weren't programmable.
benkay: i never didn't have dsl
cazalla: tfw too poor to own a gameboy, somehow $2 brick from reject shop didn't fill the void
mircea_popescu: actually, failed isn't even the word. we need something strong like the french rate
mircea_popescu: for one, things don't look suspicious for what they are, but for what they look
davout: ThickAsThieves: yeah, i was thinking like car accident or whatever way that wouldn't look suspicious
mircea_popescu: forbes didn't say that.
asciilifeform: i bet mr. t is cleaning ak as we speak
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves he doesn't have peers.
bloctoc: I don't wish to be pedantic, but the donner party did not just die, they ate each other.
asciilifeform: doesn't much matter, he already 'did the right thing'
asciilifeform: quite true, not the same. which is why it's a crying shame gauss, etc. didn't get to print their notebooks while at their best
mircea_popescu: <davout> mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume << you know the donner party also wasn't as large before as it was at the point it starved to death.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: ad-hoc ir spectrometer discussion: no dice. not that you can't train, e.g. neural net to distinguish mdma from shoe polish - you can. but the objective of identifying synthesis byproducts (basement lab folks rarely bother with recrystallization) - this one takes actual brains.
davout: mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume
davout: you don't need 10x more engineers to process 10x more payments
davout: aren't there legitimate cases where companies need to raise repeatedly because their current positive cash-flow is not sufficient to address the market as it could be addressed?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo shouldn't it be wizard ?
mike_c: because they keep taking investments. you don't sell pieces of your company for money you don't need.
mike_c: davout: point is they aren't cash-flow positive, so they can't be socking away a pile of btc.
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall, did they publish their total processed / gross fees for q1 ? 2013 ? anything ?
mike_c: if they were profitable enough they wouldn't have taken investment..
mircea_popescu: i'm not incentivised to sell it too low, i don't need the liquidity.
mircea_popescu: davout right as in what you say is true but it doesn't have much to do with the previous
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the fact that they very well can't buy even 10mn worth of btc.
mike_c: i can't create either one
mike_c: can't sell either
mike_c: not secret, but haven't i been wrong enough today? :)
mike_c: no, just i had another thought about what it might be that wasn't in the hash (or the bet)
mike_c: well, 1 btc ain't what it used to be anyway :)
TheNewDeal: I've not talked about Bitfinex since this isn't a sales pitch for them. I've not talked about how they offer leveraged margin trade as well as normal exchange. Nor have I talked about the p2p lending platform where people who don't want to trade can earn swap interest on USD or BTC balance. I've also not mentioned the 5 order types they have: limit
pankkake: and since I wasn't brainwashed early, I can't make it past the smell
mike_c: don't tweet that link, you'll get banned
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal wasn't it more like 650 ?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> and 10k house in 3k neighborhood sells for 5 < no it doesn't
pankkake: why can't you manipulate the price davout :(
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> my favourite thing about those logs is how dub hasn't changed << yup he still delivers.
fluffypony: when that comes up he says he's not writing a web wallet and "you don't even KNOW the stuff I'm writing that's so amazing it'll make the queen's testicles fall off"
davout: wasn't he that guy that wanted to start some sort of pottery-related business?
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: he told me that *I don't even know* the stuff he's working on, and by trolling *I've messed up and am going to miss out big* on his super-sekrit stuff
fluffypony: my favourite thing about those logs is how dub hasn't changed
davout: pankkake: didn't find much
fluffypony: didn't realise he's been an ass-hat for *that* long
TheNewDeal: oh my gosh. 200k is forfeited to the USMS if you don't secure a bid
pankkake: but you know there's a guy with huge green trust that still has posts saying pirate isn't a ponzi
mircea_popescu: <davout> i really don't get the fetish -assets has for this usagi guy << he's diligently stupid and has been for a long time.
pankkake: davout: me neither, they just haven't kept up with the new breed of fail