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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-29#1511416 << why should i look at the instantaneous value solely, rather than this limit? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i'd luvvv to know, why the special pleading for petrocar, it is quite the same as winblowz, x86, and other 'this is mainstream, cheap, normal and stop counting the actual damage from it as cost, you terrorist'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-29#1511402 << nobody complained in the 10,001 times i mentioned 'the cost of microshit' ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: and in other boobs, http://namethatporn.com/post/333009-where-can-i-find-this-video.html
mircea_popescu: when i say "You see ? The capitalist found the externality, made his item certainly cheaper and arguably "better" at the expense of unknown things not in his charge." i am not being facetious. the derp's actually being a good capitalist in that example. which is the broader point there : one can't pull himself up by own breeches, "capitalism" is not a cure for stupidity, merely an instrument for smart people.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah, i recall.
trinque: asciilifeform: I refer you to the "pay for sunlight" thread. No one contests that there *are* externalities, but their cost is undefined.
mod6: I'd have to dig through the logs. I'll turn my attention to that at some point soon after I get an updated build script out there.
mod6: I'm trying to remember the specifics. I can't seem to recall too much about it.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510902 << this is a good point, actually. gotta be looked into, sealing gotta seal all the crevices. << noted. I dug into this at one point, but got side tracked by other pressing things that came up at the time. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-29 01:16 mircea_popescu: i eagerly await article explaining how $100 petrobarrel << i dunno what you think this sort of nonsense achieves. what in fact it achieves is "oh look, alf has nfi what stuff costs, but he wants to derp about how it works". it's a bad habit.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-29#1511386 << argument concerned simple principle: if folks dun feel like counting gulf war I and II, and ~all~ wahabbi derpery, etc. as 'part of cost of petro', i can just as readily say that fukushima, chernobyl are 'not in the cost' of fission-power. etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i eagerly await article explaining how $100 petrobarrel << i dunno what you think this sort of nonsense achieves. what in fact it achieves is "oh look, alf has nfi what stuff costs, but he wants to derp about how it works". it's a bad habit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc i described this in detail some time last year.
trinque: I might find time to investigate why soon
pete_dushenski: anyways, i have to beat this rainstorm heading my way. having left the 16cyls parked, cycling and all. i'll read the continuation in the logs but it'll be a few busy days until i'm voiced again.
pete_dushenski: so non-people helping non-people... i fail to see the issue here. saudis have far more culture, however lamentable you may find it, than americanos.
asciilifeform: i dun get it?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511256 << i eagerly await article explaining how $100 petrobarrel becomes $.25 litre ☝︎
trinque: I wonder how many other idiot languages conflate monetary cost and "prevents alternate possible outcome"
asciilifeform: trinque: i get to tally the cost of unambiguously petro-related atrocities.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-28 23:34 trinque: I am not here to pay for consequences like somebody's child, merely to buy a product
a111: Logged on 2016-07-28 19:35 asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot 'alcachofa 7515' is mega-story. i can almost apprehend the sheer vacuum inside the argentine heads now!111
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510942 << haha, cool. and no, i wouldn't be surprised if someone here finds it and harangues me for unauthorizedly publishing their exact history or w/e ☝︎
mircea_popescu: trinque i'd be happy with a boyhood tax. to quote the classics, three pennies to the gossip ; two to the lie and one for every two stupidities.
ben_vulpes: someone musta shaved my forehead while i wasn't looking
trinque: I am not here to pay for consequences like somebody's child, merely to buy a product ☟︎
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: and pray tell where i may read up on other sanities like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511130 ☝︎
asciilifeform: and sure whatever if you use the 'not germane because i say so, fuckyou' magic wand, can come up with whatever answer you like.
mircea_popescu: i doubt it'd be effective. you'd end up with a nine ton car.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the ethics of "i like to eat"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-28 23:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511085 << there still isn't. this is like saying "before emperor took a shit in the soup bowl there was no turdsoup." sure, now there is, technically, but it still ain't soup in the sense, "i'd want to eat that". i dun think at any point the notion that if you tape many cellphone batteries together you get A LARGER BATTERY/firehazard.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511094 << last i recall, it went exactly the other way around : electric car "great deal" because nobody actually bothers to point out the externalities. in fact, ANYTHING BUT PETROL car, ie, "methanol" green car, hydrogen car etc. same deal. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511085 << there still isn't. this is like saying "before emperor took a shit in the soup bowl there was no turdsoup." sure, now there is, technically, but it still ain't soup in the sense, "i'd want to eat that". i dun think at any point the notion that if you tape many cellphone batteries together you get A LARGER BATTERY/firehazard. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: poor girl. i wonder what's the conclusion of average female after sticking finger in blender.
mircea_popescu: fwiw i can certify as to accuracy, this is an actual physical item she pointed out to me. we had coffee watching it.
ben_vulpes: are asciilifeform and i really the only ones with our own rss readers?
_FeltPen: actually I mispoke. I meant BTC assets wiki (referred to wrong tab). Anyway, I'm having to refresh my memory on pgp and wot etc. I forgot how good it is.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'll do you one better: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/127346/20160125/ascii-version-matrix-worlds-oldest-still-active-torrent.htm
mircea_popescu: shinohai i'll take your word for it, srs. dun need screenshots in ma pgp
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: that's a sexy tractor if ever i've seen one.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510843 << wotpaste plox, i don't havew that here. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: was rockefeller usgtronic ? i seem to recall him having bought and paid for congress, not the other way around.
trinque: I have 32 cyl
ben_vulpes: "for 7.5k i'd expect you bought the 2-turbo model, but can you check to see if it has 2 or 3? sometimes the factory bolted a spare on."
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: nah, i'm just yanking chains. twas 2x8cyl maths.
ben_vulpes: cuz i got eighteen in total
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: for as long as the usg provides for my externalizing onto its citizens, i will do so.
asciilifeform: i also - have petrol car. with only 6cyl. but - apparently - fewer illusions?
ben_vulpes: i have 12 cylinders of hate that need to turn over twice a month.
ben_vulpes: fuck that i'm going to take the shithead state for all it's worth.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: keep holding breath until sane world comes i guess.
BingoBoingo: From "bitcoinist.net" betting picks "Although Woodley has shown some cardio issues in the past and does carry a lot of muscle mass that can produce fatigue, I think this fight will go over 2.5 rounds." << ROLFMAO
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i've done the math and i'll pay the marginal cost in exchange for filling up when i want, where i want, and everywhere between here and timbuktoo
pete_dushenski: didn't i recently link that piece about the exorbitant cost of public electric car charging stations ? and the lines that form waiting for them ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i prefer to think of it as 'albertade' but ok. not like charging cars is phree.
BingoBoingo: Sorry if I appear rude. Encouragement doesn't translate well over text.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'm going to go out on a limb and bet that battery is shot
shinohai: $rate _FeltPen -1 I prefer ballpoints
a111: Logged on 2016-07-28 20:12 covertress: On Twitter, A.A. wrote: If the person who drained the DAO wants to do an interview, I can offer voice-masking and anonymity. Contact me via http://antonopoulos.com
asciilifeform: i bet even mircea_popescu could not buy a xerox 'dorado'.
ben_vulpes: i thought they were moderately expensive, barebones, fast and stiff little vehicles
trinque: I don't doubt it.
asciilifeform: covertress: wait i have another business idea
covertress: I'm off to grow a company. Thank you #trilema for accepting me as a citizen. ttyl
covertress: I didn't write that.
trinque: https://i.imgur.com/snLplqq.jpg
covertress: I sent that to Pete Rizzo today.
shinohai: If someone gave me a steaming pile of golang as a gift, I'd probably reconsider my friends.
BingoBoingo: covertress: No, I'm implying I don't know who or what you are, but you as sure as hell aren't my soybeans. Hence the rating of 1 denoting limited information beyond this. I have no idea what you mean by KR or your alt-eth.
covertress: BingoBoingo, are you implying that my alt-eth is a weed. In it's present state, I agree. KR's client will be undergoing an entire rewrite in a more sane lang than Golang.
shinohai: oh i get it
shinohai: kk BingoBoingo I have nothing on the warmer as of yet
shinohai: I don't have them
covertress: I don't mind you think of me as a weed. Yes, I'm sure.
shinohai: asciilifeform she needs another rate I think, I am not L1 so ...
covertress: I neglected to do that.
covertress: ty. I'll register covertress.
covertress: I have a pgp now.
covertress: Shall I invite A.A. here then?
covertress: :) As I thought (no interview.) Just wanted to pass that along and request if it is alright that I reply to A.A. on Twitter with M.P.'s FU blog post.
covertress: On Twitter, A.A. wrote: If the person who drained the DAO wants to do an interview, I can offer voice-masking and anonymity. Contact me via http://antonopoulos.com ☟︎
covertress: I bring a propositon from Andreas Antonopoulos for Mircea Popescu.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot 'alcachofa 7515' is mega-story. i can almost apprehend the sheer vacuum inside the argentine heads now!111 ☟︎
trinque: hm it isn't; I'll add.
mod6: asciilifeform: i was tinkering with that... for a bit.
asciilifeform: i recall somebody here was attempting a version of buildroot that downloads nothing
mod6: i've been running into a bunch of instances lately where the download sites for these artifacts have been down/unavailable.
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun recall it shipping with pubkeys
trinque: not that I disagree with what you're pointing out
trinque: I'll just stop that cron job until we're done
trinque: bundle will be cut at the hour, so I'd do it all either before then or after, so you can reference a single deed bundle in docs or w/e
mod6: do I need to load from wotpaste or dpaste? or can I load from mod6.net?
thestringpuller: i enjoyed professors like asciilifeform
trinque: wtf, I pushed
asciilifeform: i remembered this existing, somewhere, but this encoding is quite useless, has fp's only
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510735 << I have a great story regarding this from my alma matar. There was this guy was a rich alumni (trophy wife and everything), and would come back to campus to "hang out". Anyhow he'd pick up chicks and become their sugar daddy. Note that one of these girls is married to a beta-male working for crapple, and another chick who was "in a monogamous relationship" for years at the time. Point being, ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "you legalize pot to win, i make it legal for anyone with college debt to take anything they want from us armed forces depot"
mircea_popescu: i know :)
mircea_popescu: i thought flying-hairmat is making it legal.