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mircea_popescu: a LOT can be accomplished in ten hours, provided one doesn't pay any being an engineer rents with them.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1951078 <-- I have an old thinkpad with an intel 3000 (works decently for games that don't ask for the latest shaders & crap) and perhaps I could get my hands on other GPUs. the problematic point is that I'm spending a considerable portion of that allocated 10hrs in saeculum, without physical access to the hardware. so would have to work out some routine for
trinque: I don't want to burn anything out. I think it's upon me to specify this thing, receive feedback, and then delegate tasks.
lobbes: Not that I can't start chewing on things early, of course
mircea_popescu: plus i don't remember you throwing a hissy fit for no apparent reason
lobbes: just to be clear, my I believe role in this thing (at least to start) should be at the bottom of the totem pole. I have much to learn still but am willing to work. Though I will need management on what exactly to work on. I don't think I even could have conducted the client interviews on the level trinque (or jfw, for that matter) did. I simply do not have enough experience yet
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-11#1950546 << this stands, and what I meant wasn't the bastardized american version, where you feed the client shit til he notices.
trinque: but it's just not further than speculative, and I don't want people chasing after it
trinque: it doesn't supplant using gentoo any time soon.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it wouldn't be possible. doesn't work atm, but yes.
mircea_popescu: if you don't care, play from dvd
trinque: meaning that you can't play in there, just install
trinque: walking through the list of firmware one needs for these isn't insurmountable. I've got a radeon box sitting here that runs cuntoo
mircea_popescu: the idea is to construct funel towards republic, so he needn't be dumb. but he might be new
trinque: I wasn't proposing using actual steam, but the approach, which probably would still suffer from what you say.
mircea_popescu: i don't even mean this in any kind of theoretical sense, i've been testing it.
trinque: obviously the latter is the ratfuck, multiplied if ya don't specify hardware.
trinque: if it doesn't matter, one needs less self-involved shits than myself.
trinque: it is hard from where I sit to reconcile this "the work must be done whatever the cost" with any sense of survivability. so one says either the latter doesn't matter, or one's to fill that gap himself.
trinque: I didn't say sell the OS.
trinque: yes but they don't remain ill defined, lest years be spent toiling in the wrong direction, or circles.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 13:51:42 mircea_popescu: and as to the "bois etc" -- is very well fucking earned. the logs since http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 ie a week ago are sorely missing a "trinque: yeah, I WILL DO THAT". or an equally clear, "no, i won't do that". this is what separates the bois from the men : FIRM committments.
mircea_popescu: i don't think we're talking on the same basis here. i dunno how your "omg, faggot, do actual work" maps on the actual occurence.
BingoBoingo can't recall a single log day with this much signal and so little noise
lobbes: mircea_popescu: I can't see any reasons why not. Sure thing. I'll reach out to them
mircea_popescu: i don't think seconds are meaningful, irc is not resolvable to a second resolution anyway
lobbes: but I don't mind adding if you want. This is your thing afterall
mircea_popescu: yes but how is the bot gonna post going forward ? you already have that converter don't you ?!
mircea_popescu: you hafta, i mean... i haven't been keeping local logs since travelling etc.
lobbes: well, I mean the 'new' logs wouldn't start until bot is live anyways.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: how would you like to testrun? If you just want to play with the demo connected to my testblog, I can simply bring the bot into #t sometime tonight
diana_coman: fwiw I wouldn't shoehorn anyone into more tech; maybe the opposite, if anything.
mircea_popescu: there;s oodlebunches of work in a large project that don't involve scrutinizing arcana
mircea_popescu: i wasn't considering either one of you for the former
jfw: I don't dispute, and am here to work towards sanity & killing stupidity.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i don't give the first flying fuck how many retard bois "get upset" or whatever, the demons/voices/their mom tells them to choke on chodes.
dorion: mircea_popescu point taken, thank you. jfw reviewing the contract, Gales Linux is described as your original software, but I don't know the legal standing of that claim.
jfw: I see. They don't know enough about the code to meaningfully own it, and afaik they know this.
mircea_popescu: isn't it awkward to not have lamp ready in that context ?
jfw: I would think it's 1, as perhaps the driver could be made to work with massive compatibility layers but then the distro wouldn't look much like it does now.
mircea_popescu: in case 2, you don't know such for a fact.
mircea_popescu: in case 1, you know for a fact it won't be possible to have gfx with your thing, it has to be thrown out / redone / the thing that can do gfx can't carry the same name as your thing meaningfully.
mircea_popescu: you can't have children with a dog, it is necessarily out of the question.
mircea_popescu: do i have to throw out gales if i decide to use graphics as a given necessity or don't i
mircea_popescu: the republic can't be used in ANY OTHER WAY. eminently, it CAN NOT be used as ANY KIND of "how to stay stupid" guide. nor will this fundamental inadherence ever be capable of being turned around, "oh, mp is a meaniehead, stupidity is where it's at". nor ANYTHING other than the intended fucking purpose.
mircea_popescu: so no, i won't sign off on these (or any other) guys' waste of time over random nonsense. because the thing that comes immediately after a putative "yes mp, ima do that then" is "make a plan, i want to read this thing", not "you lot, go do what he says". hence http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950068
mircea_popescu: so try and get off your nonsense horse for the like third time this year, learn how to meaningfully communicate AND DO IT, we might have something here. but in any case the something we will have will NOT be linear extension of the alf shit. i ain't ever again doing anything like that.
mircea_popescu: and as to the "bois etc" -- is very well fucking earned. the logs since http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 ie a week ago are sorely missing a "trinque: yeah, I WILL DO THAT". or an equally clear, "no, i won't do that". this is what separates the bois from the men : FIRM committments.
mircea_popescu: sense of exactly none at all will work splendidly well, and alternatives ain't available.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 09:30:33 trinque: mk, "manage lobbes and spyked to make s.mg an OS" except don't do that at all, and also manalone bois and etc.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950636 << none of this is actually accurate. for one thing, it wasn't "manage lobbes and spyked to make s.mg an os". it was, "hey, you did some work towards something that's actually needed, namely ~a republican~ os, do you intend to continue or move on ?"
mircea_popescu: where's the "don't do all that" ?
trinque: mk, "manage lobbes and spyked to make s.mg an OS" except don't do that at all, and also manalone bois and etc.
mp_en_viaje: i really don't currently see the payoff for putting work into making it static
mp_en_viaje: i don't imagine we'll be able to ditch autoconf in principle, until many years later, many years AFTER tmsr-os is a thing
diana_coman: and moreover, it checks to see which cs deps are available because part of issue with cs is that it doesn't even have a clear list of deps: it depends what plugins and what they want
diana_coman: this is why I didn't mention it earlier really; because there are still some things to sort out first.
diana_coman: basically they still need some time to publish now what they didn't all this time and only then we can discuss in more detail really
mp_en_viaje: because for their sins computers were born after the capacity for serious activity died in the esltard. so it's all comicon all over, "this is some doodle i made please don't hate me" psychoweird.
mp_en_viaje: not a very good one, for instance can't easily turn fuck you, world. into fuck you, world! -- but still, it's a FULL script
mp_en_viaje: i can't imagine how tmsr-os would work such that a package one wants to import wouldn't require some diddling
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: from what I talked to jfw so far (he still has to write it up but there's a long list there of write-ups for him to do!), he made his own distribution with his own scripts for package building; he has it in production in that he uses it for his clients afaik but it doesn't seem to scale well the way it is currently
mp_en_viaje: in any case, http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950560 << no, nothing could be further from good. you can't go about "doing the best you can" "by yourself" on a nonsense ill defined task like that. what are you trying to turn into, THEM ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950564 << my only take-away is that trinque does not want to own the tmsr os. whether this is because ye olde manaloning & etc silly habits of boihood are just that hard to break, or for whatever reason. i can't quite discern, seeing how he talks little and mostly besides the point.
diana_coman: I still don't really have any clear idea what trinque has done or wants to do.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Already running as S#1074 on Auctionbot with the other servers. I don't know why this gorgeous thing hasn't gotten any bids yet http://bingology.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/trinquebeast.jpg Copper Heatsinks!
BingoBoingo: They just don't want to see live bugs
BingoBoingo: Right, and in certain cases OP family of poisons are the best tools for their particular niches... But the Boeble... They don't care about niches, safety, of the fainest whiff of the stuff firing all the "RUN, ESCAPE NOW" neurons.
BingoBoingo: If you can't do mosquito control with DDT, gotta fog with Malathion, etc.
BingoBoingo: In my observations, there are many unreported cases of chronic organophosphate poisoning case by failure to read the instructions. Old bitches don't have "idiopathic essential tremor", they decided to introduce slow release nerve gas into their habitation because they Doritos(TM)(R) in bed.
BingoBoingo: Of course that wasn't the historically precendented try it on the kids. It was just dumb old fucks too lazy to clean.
mp_en_viaje: no, actgually, that's kinda the problem : they have all sorta thing and they don't know what most of it is.
mp_en_viaje: something that rather doesn't exist in the us -- the mandatory da defeat.
mp_en_viaje: t stand a chance.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in fiat governments can't actually back their claims https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/aduaneros-advierten-que-cambios-en-controles-de-contenedores-no-son-suficientes-2019119155624
mod6: <+mp_en_viaje> yeah, what ever became of that guy ? << I haven't heard from him in quite a long time.
mod6: <+diana_coman> mod6: where's that wyatt youngster, maybe point him to #o or #t-hanbot? << ok will do for sure.
BingoBoingo: Weev, Anglin, the Heartiste fucker who to this day hasn't fired up his own blog after Automattic booted him... It's a gimme crowd every bit as offensive as the WIC mommies crossing the borders that they bitch about
diana_coman: bvt: that sounds quite great really ! re vtools though, wouldn't you sign those other vpatches you built on top or what's the thing there?
mp_en_viaje: tito wasn't a fucking chucka, wtf.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema-hanbot/2019-11-10#1000045 << lol, recall that time i showed up with a pistol atop the luggage, explained to the contradicted inspector that "it's ok, it has no magazine, see ?", which he happily accepted while that frenchwoman who had just lost however many hundreds in expensive cosmetics "omfg, can't take liquids!!!" bubbled over with rage ?
lobbes: ( my q's were related to my own skillset and not really the project as a whole, so I specifically decided to not ask them in #t )
diana_coman: mod6: where's that wyatt youngster, maybe point him to #o or #t-hanbot?
hanbot: death's scythe, given the previous line's about ego-annihilation. i don't see what linking'd hurt tho'. who knows who'll find what entry point to the logs captivatin'.
hanbot: hmm. no, actually; i have local copies of pages i've edited less 1-3 of the most recent edits, yeesh. i just changed the paste & wot browser links today, for instance, but didn't keep the new text locally. i'ma remedy this tonight.
diana_coman: while it's been up for quite a while and supposedly it's "community-run", I don't really like referencing it anymore because I have no idea for how long it will stay up
hanbot: for the logs: he's talking about http://thewhet.net/my-channel-trilema-hanbot/ fwiw --i don't think feedbot picks up new blog *pages*
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:43:05 mp_en_viaje: so no, 2k in 1920 very much isn't 100k in 2011 prices. it's AT LEAST A MILLION ; and "2011 prices" is purely an academic point anyway, because the sort of thing one could trivially buy in 1920 ~DOES NOT EXIST~, and therefore can't be bought for any amount of these 2020 "money" that very well fucking aren't either money or anything remotely like it.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-12-14 13:45:07 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste.
mp_en_viaje: thus therefore, the money of today isn't money either. because that's what money is predicated on, having a town somewhere issuing it.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, that urbanity doesn't exist anywhere currently, sure.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-10#1950374 - eh, nice rant and fine on money & figures; still, there are way nicer houses than that shit; "terraced" stands for shit around here but the original thing wasn't classed as terraced either so not sure why pick on that example.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 03:00:59 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949938 <-- can't say yet whether that'd take 1.5 or 3 months, but... it was my understanding that http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947274 is a pretty important item. either way, as I've said before, that plan ain't set in stone, any suggestions/guidance on priorities is more than welcome. I [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 03:03:38 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950067 <-- I'd really like to contribute to that, the only reason I didn't do it thus far being that there was always a pile of other shit to do
mp_en_viaje: so no, 2k in 1920 very much isn't 100k in 2011 prices. it's AT LEAST A MILLION ; and "2011 prices" is purely an academic point anyway, because the sort of thing one could trivially buy in 1920 ~DOES NOT EXIST~, and therefore can't be bought for any amount of these 2020 "money" that very well fucking aren't either money or anything remotely like it.
mp_en_viaje: d assorted brainshit being the principal reason why he won't).
mircea_popescu: like one of those sperm-donating cvasi-fish doesn't think you're nearly as important as you think she does. nobody does, because nobody can, because it's NOT POSSIBLE.
mircea_popescu: you were never as important as you think yourself. i don't mean, here. never, anywhere, your mother didn't think you as important as you think she thought you, nobody you ever met, including the stupid cunt you're attached to
mircea_popescu: it's not the case "mp thinks of people as furniture". mp has a lengthy history of ~permitting people to choose~. people choose, sometimes to be furniture. like you chose, systematically and repeatedly, to be furniture. as you are are still choosing, as above. it's not my fucking fault you ~aren't~ more than a sofa -- it's your elaborately constructed self-identity. stop mixing me into it, i didn't make you what you are,
mircea_popescu: it's not the case that "mp can't have partners". it's self-obvious that mp can, and does. YOU are NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ONE. it is on you, you're the bad part of the apple.