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eyetalian: ie someon puts a limit 0.19 the bot instantly puts a 0.189
eyetalian: mircea_popescu: the sell orders arent present until someone places them
ThickAsThieves: all you need to do is find that price
ThickAsThieves: that the bot is willing to play
mircea_popescu: what insanity is this. there's always someone selling wtf.
ThickAsThieves: for the market price
ThickAsThieves: but there must still be a top
eyetalian: they arent tehre any other time
mircea_popescu: it's kakobrekla who people cuss out. please stick to it.
mircea_popescu: i'm the half issuer who people praise, as per traditiob
ThickAsThieves: i still dont understand the problem
eyetalian: being the IPO issuer.
eyetalian: you are using a script to divert any BTC bids to yourself.
mod6: looks like it timed out today
mircea_popescu: i wonder if there actually is a bot or the guy just has a "world is satan" outlook
mod6: (00:31) (!) mpexbot ~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
assbot: and i hate you tat
mircea_popescu: da fuck happened there
assbot: Some are born to endless night.
eyetalian: it just ensures you always get the new BTC mircea.
eyetalian: it doesnt trading wise
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt a bot makes money on s.bbet tbh.
ThickAsThieves: if the bot is in control,
ThickAsThieves: they are designed to make money
eyetalian: so its 1 participant gaming the market
eyetalian: its just suspiscious thats all
eyetalian: when someone tries to buy the bot ensures its the bots supply you are buying
eyetalian: the bot absorbs any new bids, diverting BTC to itself
mircea_popescu: i don't snoop nearly to the degree everyone assumes.
ThickAsThieves: even if it IS the bot
mircea_popescu: probably halves is the fastest.
eyetalian: thickasthieves: the bids are very low on purpose i assume it is the bot buying back
ThickAsThieves: you'll find the bottom
ThickAsThieves: .ile .0001 at a time
ThickAsThieves: try pushing the bot into the bids
eyetalian: and take a huge loss, which i assume the bot sits on the bid side too
eyetalian: the bot will undercut you forcing you to do a market order.
ThickAsThieves: simple as that
ThickAsThieves: you need to sell for less than whomever else is selling
ThickAsThieves: it doesnt matter tho
eyetalian: i assume the bot is yours.
eyetalian: it just seems youve set it up to make sure any new bids go straight to you
mircea_popescu: right, like 99% of the ask side is leftover from ipo
eyetalian: well yes i know you are selling most of those
mircea_popescu: have you read the ipo contract eyetalian ?
eyetalian: almost the entire ask size is the bots shares
eyetalian: just suspiscious to me thats all
mircea_popescu: 85/150 wtf is that.
eyetalian: no its called someone having a huge ammount of shares and gaming the market to ensure all bids are aimed towards the certain supply
mircea_popescu: well this is called price formation you know. the market atm is incredibly wide
ThickAsThieves: or trick the bot into selling into bids, if it's that exact
eyetalian: yea and take a huge loss
mircea_popescu: i imagine if the price is too high it will undercut you,
eyetalian: it stops you from being able to exit
eyetalian: yes but no matter what price you put the bot comes in
eyetalian: example if you try to sell for 0.19. instantly a sell of 0.1899 appears below it
eyetalian: if you try to sell bbet shares
deadweasel: what is the question?
eyetalian: is there a bot...?
eyetalian: very dissapointing dividend on sbet this month :(
jborkl: I remember the first time I read about tonal , I stopped when I reached Bong-Bitcoin
deadweasel: DEAF.GMA-PT will not be offered until my other, deaf grandma is in the ground. Then her Tonal IPO can be announced.
mircea_popescu: all injokes are lame to outsiders :D
jborkl: I always think of deaf people talking when I read tonal bitcoin
imsaguy: deadweasel, it'd probably be easier to use tonal numbers
deadweasel: and the number will be in tens of twelves
mircea_popescu: well the only way forward is for you to present this at the upcoming "first" coinsomething conference
imsaguy: Im pretty certain that once dead, they all fart
mircea_popescu: (fwiw, the romanian expression is "you can only fuck her after you roll her in flour and find the wet spot")
mircea_popescu: yes this is dog.
imsaguy: what is this?
imsaguy: <mircea_popescu> how's she generating revenue ? << ever heard the term 'find a fold and...'?
ThickAsThieves: the amatuer mining professional wouldnt stand for that
deadweasel: every six months her total mass is reduced, thus your shares become more valuable, as the total is reduced.
ThickAsThieves: and i assume this asset won't see any divs for quite a while
deadweasel: mircea_popescu, this is a traditional IPO, we will decide revenue generators later.
ThickAsThieves: a PT would be tough
ThickAsThieves: maybe i'll call it TAT.MASTER
furuknap: *the other assets _I trade_
furuknap: MP, I know, but it would only be for this; the other assets have PTs already.
deadweasel: yes, I'd like to offer up DEAD.GMA shares
furuknap: Yeah, MP is putting up a new asset, and I just can bring myself to doing all that PGP stuff to trade.
deadweasel: I'm going to sell my dead grandmother in a TAT-PT
furuknap: And who will be the first to issue a PT? :-)
deadweasel: mircea_popescu, I'll watch for now, but I'm glad to see some new IPOs emerging.
mircea_popescu: eyetalian http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-may-2013-statement/ announced there
eyetalian: hello when are the SBET earnings/dividends released?
mircea_popescu: of course it would by definition be for more per share, but nothing wrong with that in principle.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel the two are not distinct however. you can just wait out the ipo, see if any value arises and then buy in lateer
deadweasel: but since it's new biz, that part cannot yet be fondled.
deadweasel: I did like the traditional IPO offering piece. That's all great stuff, I just want to fondle whatever it is that is worth investing in.
peterl: link to article?
mircea_popescu: as the article says, unlike all the other mpex ipos, which were sale by owner of established product, this is new biz.
deadweasel: I see. I think understand the status of this IPO.
mircea_popescu: asking me about "is the problem already solved" presumes we're past step 3
mircea_popescu: step 1. some people decide on a problem to solve ; step 2. those people come up with a way to do it and calculate resouerces needed ; step 3. those people gather the needed resources.
deadweasel: mircea_popescu, of course, it was Magic currency first, but now it's something else. What would the utility be of the Game IPO? Where does the product come into play?
usagi: Increasing leverage in times of silver going up, decreasing in times of silver going down
usagi: I am working hard at making my tu.silver issue a winner though
usagi: Right now the price of BTC is the determining factor in silver/BTC investments