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mircea_popescu: trinque i meant more as
a philosophical point than necessarily in this implementation.
trinque: Framedragger: when you deploy, disable the sbcl debugger and put it in runit,
a process manager
Framedragger: (aha, the reconnect method gets called in
a separate ping thread, it seems)
Framedragger: aha,
a different initial preference, and i see the danger in the converse - sure
mircea_popescu: but to the more general point, the system provides no incentives for acting sanely for any peculiar definition of sanity, and provides shocking, oversized downside for fucking up. this is exactly as it should be : sanity as an emergent behaviour out of defined limitations of the world. it is exactly opposite of how the empire tries to work, of course, and in the process turns everyone into
a version of elliot.
Framedragger: i mean
a simpler thing: if people here trust each others' code more, that's
a good thing, and *all other things being equal* (crucial assumption), that code should be preferred. no?
Framedragger: trinque: great, and that sounds like
a very sane design.
trinque: so unless I made
a mistake in ircbot (maybe I did) it's *done*
trinque: idea is that wotbot functions have
a genesis vpatch, google whatever, its own v tree, so on
trinque: right. in this case I challenge anyone to find
a need for
a second patch on those modules themselves, rather than creating
a genesis vpatch for their own module which talks to the db in postgres.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and don't even fucking "oh i'll v them later". the whole point of v is to teach you how to code like
a sane person.
trinque: Framedragger: so if you take
a look at that there logbot... new logs are shat into postgresql. lines to be spoken by bot are read from another table.
trinque: I FUCKING PUBLISHED
A LOGGING BOT.
mircea_popescu: odds are he's gonna check in about an hour to vacation-ruining news. WHCH SHOULD BE
A FUCKING LESSON TO ALL!!11
Framedragger: if it's
a deterministic system and not based on some internal db id increment thing then it can and probably should be replicated.
trinque: I propose we get
a domain going elsewhere which we cname to whichever current log viewer.
mircea_popescu: god damned it, now i'm gonna have to fish out old logs for
a yet another time ? grrr.
mircea_popescu: alright, then i'ma inhibit trinque for the i dunno, fifth time and give your thing
a try.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i won't try yours, because i just said i'm not interested in this "it works, no promises though" approach to anything. it's not
a way to live. i'm not committing downstream to your napkin doodle.
mircea_popescu: trinque can ye get
a www log thing that actually works ?
Framedragger: yeah giving phf logs from multiple places and having
a mechanism for this would be nice
mircea_popescu: Framedragger watch that not one single luminary of the "modern democracy" derpage is going to engage the elliot story. there's at least
a million of these "officer & gentleman" idiots who think themselves intellectuals and with something relevant to say, and you know, understanding of nature and society.
Framedragger: trilema as tool to cause epilepsy in dogmatized "free democratic" people does seem to be
a thing, hm
mircea_popescu: there's at least two dozen articles on trilema of which any single one would be sufficient to end the world as it is among
a thinking set.
mircea_popescu: and i can try to breach it any way i want. trilema is full of it. there's
a "oh, you'e in online marketing ? here's how i got millions of ''clicks'' worth whatever you pay for them, free". mayn't notice. "can't say nigger ? here." mayn't!!11 "oh you think so and so about education/rape/whatever ?" MAYNT!!111
mircea_popescu: it's more than that. it's also
a lengthy list of "technology". it goes like this : "to make the earth banana shaped, buy this and bury it in the desert. then the next full moon measure the parallax of neptune with this tool. then depending on that paralax go into any of these states...." and then there's an endless list of further instructions.
Framedragger: (in unrelated lol,
a remittance solution / bank transfer service just emailed me with the words "Yeah! We’ve just sent your money!" in the subject line. i dunno, something about the tone resembling "fuck yah bro i just finished the vodka!!" doesn't inspire confidence)
mircea_popescu: take the general "entrepreneur", take paul biggar as
a much better example. the kid is definitely intelligent. he wants to be an entrepreneur. which is
a word, which has
a meaning. he proceeds to usianize. this FAILS TO DELIVER, but
a decade later he is STILL doing it. and apparently hasn't noticed ANYTHING about any of this. why not ?
☟︎ Framedragger: this particular type of lack of self awareness in
a broader context of "where am i" really ties well with the elliott dude, i dunno, some kind of deeper similarity imo
mircea_popescu: then the republic proceeds to tell her the future. just like that, nude. but she's too busy keeping up the pretense of existence to notice this. besides, who's ready to interact with such ontologic monstrosities ? really, immediate access to fate, this is
a thing ?!
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the story of poor covertress is something else. so the woman comes here to you know, interact with the republic on her own terms. because she's
a woman and
a person ("an officer and
a gentleman"!) and therefore may even have her own terms. everyone may! what's this, rape ?
Framedragger: ;;later tell phf you may consider
https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ instead of digitalocean, or at least give it
a try as one of them "bot mirrors" that you'd mentioned. there "BareMetal" (didn't try) and VPS (down below - works as advertised, no formal benchmarks tho). cheap.
Framedragger: finally the senior cop says that there is
a procedure but ideally it should be raised with
a neutral policeperson and he'd be "biased" here. he says this can be done online (and it indeed can). after some more back and fourth and with the fella still full of angst we decide to file the thing online and bid goodbye.
Framedragger: the fella then approaches us (and my friend in particular who is insisting on raising
a complaint with the other cop), half
a metre now maybe, and says "you take your watch off", "what are you thinking defending him", etc. the cops slowly react by gently pulling the fella away. not without
a pause first
Framedragger: my friend continues to chat with the senior cop calmly. said cop asks "so did the guy really not resist [as in, maybe he did resist
a bit]" - "no he really did not resist". ok.
Framedragger: no we don't, this is
a separate matter, [interjections with drunken shouts], the guy was arrested after all [interjections], the arrest was improper, etc.
Framedragger: three of us enter and my friend asks the cop behind the counter whether it would be possible to get
a complaint form and file
a complaint regarding police behaviour / misuse of force.
Framedragger: arrive at small station which is nearby.
a kind of kusturica scene unfolds: the victim of the robbery - or
a friend of the victim, it was not ever clear as there was too much shouting and the guy was drunk - sits at
a desk. three cops in the room.
Framedragger: we consider, then put
a can of beer left in the bag somewhere in
a corner just in case, and proceed to the police station to file
a complaint because why the fuck not.
Framedragger: cop arrives, shouts something like (i think) "where's the watch?!!", there's maybe half
a sec of
a pause (guy's arms still in the air), then the guy is thrown onto the ground, cop takes out
a device and tazes the fella who in turn bellows in pain. i start filming (but all too late as it is with these things).
Framedragger: kinda scrawny guy running not far from us,
a cop chasing him from
a distance. guy turns
a corner, then suddenly stops, turns around, throws his hands in the air, and maybe thrice shouts clearly: "i'm sorry", "i yield". we wait.
Framedragger: oh btw, saturday night while walking around town (vilnius) with two other peeps i stumbled into
a scene:
BingoBoingo: "Imagine if he actually had sex, somehow, and thereby discovered that most young girls could comfortably fit his sex as well as
a friend's. It wouldn't even be stretching. Then what!" << Then she demands his whole hand inside her and he hecomes Eliot Slippyfist, and James lives happily ever after.
BingoBoingo: Aha, yeah. Everyone knows that
a transmission is necessary for
a functioning moral psychology to develop from engine.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You should have referred to them as hedges. Instead you called them "green hell" and as you live in
a swamp I assumed the worst.
BingoBoingo: WTF is
a gratitude list? Moral inventory is far more useful.
BingoBoingo: covertress: It's not really
a recoverable thing. WOuld be more recoverable if reimbursement for lost coins was
a challenge or better an impossibility.
BingoBoingo: Then don't spray it on the trees. And if it gets on the trunk you can rinse it off. You are doing
a folliar application. Not
a basal application, for that you'r use the triclopyr that mixes with kerosene as
a carrier oil. Not water!
mircea_popescu: for the past fucking three minutes i've been trying to dig up how the fuck you do this. what
a waste of evereyone's time.
mircea_popescu: cuz i left it on cuz it was going to be
a one minute thing yesterday. damn it.
shinohai: no ben_vulpes i have
a fix per mircea_popescu 's suggestion !~
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: Error: "affected" is not
a valid command.
covertress: i'm entertaining suggestions to prevent
a recurrence. adding addl hashing power and/or forking to
a POW/POS hybrid are my only solutions, atm.
mircea_popescu: "come... as you are... with tattoos or altogether bare... as
a friend... as
a friend. as an old enemy.
mircea_popescu: i once covered myself in such copios amounts of kohl off
a single pretty moon of
a face it took
a week to take it all off.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chiefly because he never had
a chance to test it.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 14:05 thestringpuller: When did Pump and Dump become
a viable business strategy? It's like 1990's albania up in here.
thestringpuller: When did Pump and Dump become
a viable business strategy? It's like 1990's albania up in here.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: though it goes well with his complete disinterest in you know,
a brothel. i suspect even if he had had
a "hot sexy girlfriend", she wouldn't have necessarily known it. prolly more hand-in-handwalks than handjobs on his menu.
mircea_popescu: male shyness is actually quite common, in all mammal species, and also with womans. if i had
a satoshi for every historical case where the poor mother in law had to stick her worthless son's penis into some girl by hand, i wouldn't even be poor.
diana_coman: uhm, by the looks of it so that she can have
a shit for
a kid
diana_coman: he begs his mother to get married to
a rich guy to ...save his (elliot's) life
diana_coman: what change? he finds it too much to actually be in this nasty "unfair" world, he wants someone to make him
a little bubble at least to keep it all away
mircea_popescu: mayhap only
a woman would see that in there. i can't readily discern what part is in the painting and what part is in the natural "i'll change him" eye of the beholderess.
diana_coman: still, there are in fact inconsistencies in elliot's narrative: one second he's fighting off those boys in the truck (even with
a knife!) and the next second he flees because one (ONE) boy...shouted at him
mircea_popescu: and very right and proper of
a historical aristocrat, at that. like you know, the charge of whatever brigade.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not sure his equivalent has yet been produced by his country. he seems quite
a brand apart.
diana_coman: ftr what I find more mind boggling is the degree to which nobody around him actually has anything to do really and I mean first his parents; at least from his account all they do is to throw at him money above what he can in fact handle; in one view I could almost frame this as poor kid got thrown into
a station so much above himself that the difference between what he *knows* he is worth (nothing) and what he has been forced t
mircea_popescu: the process is evident throughout, "lottery exists, therefore it must have
a winner. i am great, therefore i must win it."
mircea_popescu: maybe. my interpretation is that he took
a very strict view of my earlier stand in our dispute re corectness. it was simply not possible for any sort of result to be obtained through example.
diana_coman: ah, there is that indeed, he uses to choose in
a certain way