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mircea_popescu: well admittedly fym stands for fuck your mother, but
the rest.
mircea_popescu: yes,
there are. da fuck do you
think aml kyc fym stand for ?
bitcollapse: there are no US dollar regulations mandating
the IDing of a user on EVERY
transaction.
bitcollapse: everyone is applying rules
that dont exist
to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: the regulations are as
to
the us dollars being useless, not as
to bitcoin.
bitcollapse: theres no regulations specific
to bitcoin being a highly sensitive item ie. explosives, drugs etc.
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu i
think you are somewhat delusional. I can walk into a store and purchase goods with paper cash and nobody will ID me.
davout: i'm off,
these funny captioned pictures don't just watch
themselves
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu:
the
tax code only requries merchants
to keep books and records of sales NOT who
they sold
too.
pigeons: recently
there was contaminated food sold in my area, so
the polic got
the records from
the supermarket loyalty discount card program
to contact potentially affect shoppers
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu:
theres no laws requiring merchants
to RECORD ID on EVERY single product.
mircea_popescu: there's ~500000000 pages of regulations regarding
the dollars.
bitcollapse: why arent my gasoline purchases recorded
then with an ID
mircea_popescu: they didn't use
to, on
the grounds
that maybe
they're like bitcoin
mircea_popescu: bitcollapse no dude. buitcoin is
treating dollars like
the shit
they are.
bitcollapse: bitinstant is
treating bitcoin as some sort of advanced highly defined/regulated instrument
davout: bitcollapse: seriously, i give you 6/10, now go away, i was having a good
time
pigeons: dont get me started on
trying
to buy a car
mircea_popescu: the onl;y
time
they don't ask for your id when you're using dollars
pigeons: cameras on
the razor blade isle recording who
touches it
mircea_popescu: so stop
trying
to
trade
that shit for bitcoin and nobody cares about your id anymore.
bitcollapse: if i buy electronics at walmart and
trade
them for drugs does walmart need
to ID me everytime i buy
them?
mircea_popescu: heh. not list
the locations.
these people just won't fucking learn what open means already
mircea_popescu: "We have
temporarily limited
transactions in some locations, and we apologize for
the inconvenience. "
pigeons: i
thought you said bitinstant
bitcollapse: why? you dont need
to show an ID when you are buying walmart goods
pigeons: bitcollapse:
they are going along with it
to stay out of jail
davout: bitcollapse: open your own exchange, get some experience,
then you will understand
bitcollapse: now
they require an account and all sorts of ID
pigeons: and its as private as your paypal info, you arent giving
that address
to anyone but bitinstant
mircea_popescu: <bitcollapse> and bitinstant is now nothing more
then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements <<< details ?
bitcollapse: where all
transactions can be
traced extremely easily
bitcollapse: but i dont like having an ID linked
to a public adress
pigeons: my feathers look bad in
that picture
though
pigeons: that isnt suprising
to anyone
bitcollapse: hence
the price decline going along with it
pigeons: bitcollapse:
then don't do it
bitcollapse: bitcoin adress linked
to ID is even more dangerous
davout: bitcollapse: no offense, but you have no idea of what you're
talking about
davout: bitcollapse:
that's a good one
davout: and keep in mind
that
they indirectly ID you since
they get
the information from your various payment means
davout: maybe your not moving
that much
bitcollapse: ive never had
to submit documents
to paypal
pigeons: maybe it
takes a year, but
they will get
to it
bitcollapse: ive been using it for years
they just verified me with a automated phone call
davout: because
the law requires
them
to
bitcollapse: but
they never ask for ID unless its very business specific
bitcollapse: no
they dont you can open one with a credit card or bank account
davout: yet, as an exchange you have
to follow
them, unless you want
to live a quite painful experience
bitcollapse: davout yes but if a bitcoin adress is linked
to an ID
davout: the various laws don't usually give
the slightest shit about your privacy
bitcollapse: that just
tosses out any bitcoin privacy and makes it worse
then a bank
davout: you obviously don't have
the slightest clue of what you're
talking about...
bitcollapse: how come paypal can
transmit money and not ask for ID uploads?
bitcollapse: and bitinstant is now nothing more
then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements
davout: bitcollapse: have you looked on
their respective asset pages ?
bitcollapse: hi guys when are
the sdice and bbet dividends due
deadweasel: just removed a brown recluse from my bedroom. i guess
that's a win!
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 91.59311, Best ask: 91.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38689, Last
trade: 92.14290, 24 hour volume: 43495.29781796, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.08325
furuknap: Who are you calling crazy? HELP,
THE BANANAS ARE
TRYING
TO EAT ME! QUICK! GIVE ME
THAT
TOILET SEAT!
benkay: i have a bet coming due next monday. btc
trading above 70. wasn't concerned at
the
time of bet, am slightly concerned now.
furuknap: Of course, sooner or later
that would be
true :-)
gribble: There are currently 26202984 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9748770.74663 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 89.10502, Best ask: 89.12999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02497, Last
trade: 89.12999, 24 hour volume: 42825.80763141, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.10373
davout: well, i'm off,
ttyl all
davout: i may be able
to live with it
davout: well,
tbh
the way you're accounting for it makes much more sense if explained
that way
davout: that's where
the MP aura stops I guess :-)
mircea_popescu: if i do guarantee usage it makes no sense
to pretend im paying monthly, and it actually helps his cash flow a
ton
to pay him upfront
mircea_popescu: if i don't guarantee usage
the provider won't open new boxes of gear for me.
mircea_popescu: wherein all sorts of weird constrainsts operate. like, nobody wants used gear. everyone wants
to own geaer. nobody wants
to pay for anything.