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Scrat: heh, base58check even goes as far to remove certain letters to avoid typos
cads: if random keys were engineered so that whitespaces and symbols appeared less frequently, that would reduce security of keys of a given length, but that might not be a bad solution.
cads: If they did, vanity addresses could be a lot nicer in the front end. But then all addresses would look a lot uglier everywhere else.
cads: it's a damn shame that public keys can't include punctuation or whitespace!
thestringpuller: cads should tutor me for my network security class
cads: Anyway, that's all I have. </math> </rant>
cads: If Bob has clients that will actually trust him with their private keys, he can _also_ test each P(B) with an "interesting prefixes" algorithm, and build up a database of keys that he can sell to customers at a lower price than his fully secure keys.
cads: If Bob is given a list (U_1, V_1) .. (U_n, V_n) of pairs of public keys and target prefixes, then he can economize a great deal. For every private key B that Bob computes, he can compute P(B) once, then test whether P(B) + U_k has prefix V_k, for any k in 1 .. n.
Namworld: neat, at this rate, exponential moving averages (10/21) will cross on the weekly charts.
cads: Oh, I made a small error. s/a vanity address V/a vanity address with prefix V s/such that P(B) + U = V/such that P(B) + U has V as a prefix.
cads: Two parties Alice and Bob can generate a vanity address V with no trust. Alice generates a random private key A, and sends Bob her public key U = P(A). Then Bob finds private key B such that P(B) + U = V. Bob delivers B to Alice, and Alice's brand new key is A' = A+B.
cads: Let P : Priv -> Pub be a function that takes a ECDSA private key to its public key, and let A, B : Pub be two public keys. Then P(A+B) = P(A) + P(B).
ozbot: security - Can one safely buy vanity addresses from a third party without risking one's coins from b
BitHub: bull trap
cads: I only know what I've learned in the half hour I've known about it, but it seems to be very scalable and fault tolerant - a reasonable usecase may be to use it in in on a load balancing cloud backend to aggregate all the realtime stats, and feed them to users on a well styled JS frontend.
parseval: I've seen that one, been thinking of picking it up for web stats on the backend. How is it?
cads: I recently ran into graphite, a tool for high performance, mission critical real time data graphing, http://graphite.wikidot.com/faq
cads: thanks for the leads, parseval
parseval: After the pies, I think I'll work on some of the data I've been pulling in from assbot and assetbot to make some charts for the exchanges those bots cover
parseval: data's all from the btc-tc api
cads: what're you using as the charting backend?
cads: thanks for the input guys!
cads: a site with better marketing than vanity pool may increase the demand for vanity addresses enough to make the enterprise worthy
parseval: I might tweak the colors a bit
cads: I'm thinking it might be most economical to throw a vanity miner into the cloud, if the demand is high enough
cads: so I could use these guys as a marketplace for my own services if I wished
parseval: I think my pies are close to finished. Whatcha think? http://coinflow.co:8000/chart/ASICMINER-PT (the data is a little old, this is from development db which doesn't update frequently)
cads: I'm learning that!
cads: oh wow, that scheme is brilliant
Namworld: But it's not just submitting it. It's done without the need to trust the person finding the vanity address for you.
cads: vanity pool seems to let people in the community do the work and submit it
cads: seeing one implemented as a TOR hidden service
ThickAsThieves: soon to be a new one too
cads: I'm seeing a forum post where a person offers to generate 3 or 4 sufficx vanity addresses for 0.10 BTC, lol
Namworld: There is a safe way to have others generate your vanity address.
cads: I'm assuming that if such a service exists it would implement a novel secure handoff procedure.
cads: nevermind that only chumps would pay for someone to generate a public/private key pair and then give it to them so they can use it.
cads: hey guys, are there any services out there that take BTC and give you a vanity address of your choice?
Namworld: lol. Withdrawals available right in time.
ThickAsThieves: nice timing gox
ThickAsThieves: ok i'm turning in, wanna here my arb results for the day?
jcpham: probably because of the company and private issuance
jcpham: that's the currency that wins
furuknap: OK, I'm heading to bed. Good night.
jcpham: well who knows. its the integrationa and adoption
furuknap: If you don't pray, now would be a very good time to start.
furuknap: Let's all kneel down and pray that it's not going to be PayPal.
parseval: I got rid of them on bitcoin-otc
furuknap: Well, Id' gladly give my Ripples away for BTC, but I have no idea how. *the whole thing is way too complex.
jcpham: so something else imho will be the next gen currency
jcpham: bitcoin is like a commodity to me. the currency needs to ride on top of bitcoin and be traded in it
parseval: I traded away my free ripples for 4 BTC, I was surprised someone would pay that much for them
furuknap: They gave them to me, so no funny remarks.
furuknap: I still got about 1K XRP. No idea what to do with that many stamps.
jcpham: thats too bad
ThickAsThieves: i try not to read about ripple
jcpham: did you guys read about this
ozbot: Bitcoin Bridge lets Ripple users make payments to Bitcoin accounts | Ripple
parseval: BitInstant won't trade with my state anymore.. funny, because I thought they were based in NY
Namworld: Wait parseval. I'm sure BTC can drop a whole lot more than that.
furuknap: Oh, sorry, this wasn't the insane asylum. Wrong channel.
ThickAsThieves: even mircea was saying APR today
furuknap: OMG, we're going through the roof! AM to 10BTC by morning! BUY, BUY, BUY!
Namworld: Hey hey hey... If they're talking about BTC-BOND, APR is appropriate.
ThickAsThieves: EBob, do you die inside every time a forum trader says APR
ThickAsThieves: now all the forum bears will think they are super traders of AM
Namworld: Re divs thing
Namworld: True, divs and a business's state of affairs matter not for most traders it seems. It's just a random walk. I assume they don't know about poker/casinos and just trade stocks randomly for the thrill.
furuknap: 4 were traded recently. Someone must have gone to sleep and will not be happy when they wake up.
ThickAsThieves: doesnt show the premium
furuknap: Me too :-)
furuknap: I wouldn't, but then again, I've been bearish on AM since 1.9
ThickAsThieves: you wouldve written that put?
furuknap: Depends on premium. For a .05 premium, it probably didn't look like too bad a deal.
EskimoBob: ThickAsThieves: if this was a put at 4.45, what was stupid about it? some guy just had to buy back the shares at 4.45 (or pay the difference)
ThickAsThieves: but who would sell a put that close to ATH
furuknap: It was a put option, and I'd call that a nice one.
ThickAsThieves: how retarded do you have to be
jcpham: wtf was that buy
EskimoBob: but not surprised, market is really thin and all the evaluations are just brain farts from forum
Namworld: My best guess is they cashed out to sell the BTC before it was too late.
Namworld: Any group of people is blamed for everything wrong in the world. Etc.
EskimoBob: seriusly? read the logs? you read them. I do not give a flying fuck what is going on here :)
Namworld: What? No, he's just mad at everything. Everyone is always wrong because he already experience/visited/seen everything and it's all awful crap unlike whatever others think.
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jcpham: read the logs!
EskimoBob: so he is like you guys then
jcpham: incoherent is the word i choose
EskimoBob: like me? translate
jcpham: based on the way he was talking to me
EskimoBob: who is tiberius ?
ThickAsThieves: he was tiberius
EskimoBob: ThickAsThieves: "yes EskimoBob, you better run" must be the first smart thing you ever typed :)
jcpham: did the annoying guy from earlier today turn out to actually be EskimoBob or did that guy just go away
Namworld: Don't know what I was thinking.
ThickAsThieves: EskimoBob is SO MUCH cooler than tiberius ☟︎
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.08000, Best ask: 74.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 74.31626, 24 hour volume: 93035.08619902, 24 hour low: 72.00000, 24 hour high: 90.00000, 24 hour vwap: 80.76030
furuknap: MTGox said they were processing USD withdrawals again; that might have something to do with it.
ThickAsThieves: probly something related to web socket being disconnected
topace: dammit ThickAsThieves stop breaking things :p