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mjrIII: with no US website, they did 800% of what just-dice did
mjrIII: Chaang-Noi: anyway, profit of 5k bitcoins last month pretty much says everything i need to say about s.dice as a company
mjrIII: lol that was a conversation i was having with him lol
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 weeks, 3 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
mjrIII: maybe namworld and smickles too
mjrIII: i would say the relative "risk-free" people in btc are you, mp, erik, kako
mjrIII: jurov: and what did you mean about the people, i trust erik more than almost everyone in btc
mjrIII: and that s.dice is still doing just fine
mjrIII: anyway, for a company that is doing so bad, to have 8X the revenue of your paradigm of the "best" site says that the market doesn't think just-dice is the best
mjrIII: Namworld: do they not match? net profit/total shares doesn't add up?
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 71.22500, Best ask: 71.24000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01500, Last trade: 71.22501, 24 hour volume: 31145.86411387, 24 hour low: 66.60001, 24 hour high: 71.61334, 24 hour vwap: 69.02590
Namworld: Just look at the per share dividend. Does it match 100% profit divided by 100 million shares? Always
mjrIII: and that is 13% of their total profit
arij: is there something wrong with that/
mjrIII: 648.55972400843 that is june's div for s.dice
jurov: mjrIII and what do you say to the fact that evoorhees intrduces himself as Coinapult CEO, not mentioning SatoshiDice much?
Namworld: Most are here to stay.
jurov: okay, and would that stay forever? is there any known agreement between blockchain and sdice?
Namworld: I hold equity in more than one dice websites.
mjrIII: but s.dice's .28 P/E ratio is quite tempting
mjrIII: and no, i hold no equities at the moment
mjrIII: so you are more likely to be exposed to s.dice via blockchain than by going to their site
mjrIII: my point is that almost everyone uses blockchain
Chaang-Noi: mjr3 must hold s.dice stock, no one is that retarded
Chaang-Noi: only old users know this
Chaang-Noi: new users who try to play go to the site and well are blocked
mjrIII: so, the whole OMG they blocked the website from US Users was silly from the perspective of someone who understands how s.dice works
mjrIII: and that isn't blocked
mjrIII: i would argue that more people learn about s.dice because they use blockchain than because they stumbled upon the site
Namworld: But of course, won't put other website there other than the SD option.
jurov: mjrIII it's not about game itself, that's bulletproof. it's about the owner
Chaang-Noi: mjrthe3rd, are you tiberslav?
mjrIII: does blockchain still offer that list?
Chaang-Noi: he is a huge target, but he got like 10 million usd out of it
Chaang-Noi: not to new players
mjrIII: i can't look at the list of addresses on that website
mjrIII: oh, the website that is irrelevant to the actual game
Chaang-Noi: to the website dumbass
jurov: mjrIII, but erik really did that, or tried to
mjrIII: its a bitcoin blockchain transaction, how exactly does one block anyone?
Chaang-Noi: are you tiberslav?
Namworld: pankkake, so does Coinroll, PrimeDice and plenty others which were there before just-dice or these...
Chaang-Noi: erik did not take the money and improve the site like he said, all he did was sell sell and then take the pool money
mjrIII: are you referring to when he released 3% more of the company
Chaang-Noi: <mjrIII> and i think erik is pretty well trusted he was, but then he fucked over the people who gave him money and did not do what he said
mjrIII: pankkake: well, as an investory, whichever is more appealing to the consumer is the one i'd rather invest in
pankkake: as an investor, it's all the same really
pankkake: the advantage of satoshi dice, as a gambler, is that the btc go back (or not) to your account quickly. you don't have to put much trust in the operator
mjrIII: as if there weren't s.dice clones in the past
Namworld: Blah... coinroll all the way... same thing but came earlier.
mjrIII: i do see the transactions for s.dice
pankkake: no, but I doubt you can see the in/outs, and it would not provide any useful info
mjrIII: and i think erik is pretty well trusted
mjrIII: i thought just-dice gave you both options
Chaang-Noi: mjrIII okay okay, buy s.dice then, :) hehehe
mjrIII: let's go to blockchain.info and see how many just-dice transactions vs s.dice transactions happen
Chaang-Noi: better odds than s.dice and run by a guy more trusted than erik
mjrIII: that remains to be seen, i am confident in mpex
Chaang-Noi: he had to make up a company to get a new one to list
Chaang-Noi: mpex is dead, no one will ever list there agin
Namworld: Good bunch of S.DICE trades
mjrIII: in the grand scheme of things
Chaang-Noi: yeah but the traders and users left after getting fcked over and over
mjrIII: in which case, its fine, the businesses who sought capital got it
jurov: CheckDavid: if some parts are confusing, you'll still be able to ask better questions
mjrIII: Chaang-Noi: i think of it as a place for businesses to sell equity in exchange for capital
mjrIII: ChaangNoi: depends on what you think the point of equity markets are
jurov: CheckDavid, read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.0
Chaang-Noi: mpex makes about 3 trades a day now
Chaang-Noi: that right there is a pass though to mpex of one of iots only stocks being sold off
mjrIII: that is an equity called s.dice-pt which is what they call a pass through
CheckDavid: mjrIII, these ones now? this flood? lol
mjrIII: so, CheckDavid, you see those prints?
CheckDavid: Ok ok, you all dominate thsi shit when you were born
mjrIII: on mpex, you need to be vetted by mircea_popescu (good luck)
Chaang-Noi: go there, read the rules
Chaang-Noi: i did the same shit when i was 12, we made up companies and traded stock
CheckDavid: How does a "company" or "business" register there?
jurov: his is too broad question
CheckDavid: No, not a comparison of that sort
jurov: go there and make your own opinion
Chaang-Noi: its like that econ class i had in 6th grade
mjrIII: are you asking for a comparison of which one it is more similar to?
CheckDavid: is BTCT like the NYSE?
mjrIII: what level of understanding of traditional finance you had
mjrIII: if i told you it was a print from nasdaq
CheckDavid: this is a bit confusing to me yet
CheckDavid: Was it transacted on a specific exchange?
mjrIII: the terms of its creator i suppose
mjrIII: 1 unit was transacted for .004 bitcoin
CheckDavid: What defines that asset?
CheckDavid: What are these quotes?
mjrIII: maybe i should reverse them so i can know with certainty the collateral on the mpex side
mjrIII: but i basically have to put up .2 bitcoins as collateral to hedge one bitcoin
mjrIII: and will launch this one at satoshisquare.com when it is ready
mjrIII: i am refactoring and debugging the old site and adding it into the new site slowly
mjrIII: by the way, check out the current edition of the site
mjrIII: that is what I eventually hope to have
jurov: well, if you can insure MPBPT with reasonable terms.. i'm all in
mjrIII: to help them