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mjr_: so hopefully, if it were possible to hedge better, one should be able to offer better prices
ThickAsThieves: assuming you have some confidence in the bots pricing
mjr_: 3. I know this obvious but higher prices mean less deman
ThickAsThieves: you could always base it on the bot's buy price\
mjr_: 1. Options volume used to be higher
mjr_: that is the problem
mjr_: yes, you have to map out where you are covered and more importantly where you aren't
ThickAsThieves: but you need both ends to be dynamic right?
mjr_: in other words, i am long the future
mjr_: for example, let's say i tell my friend i will buy 1000 coins from him at 75 dollars at the end of august
ThickAsThieves: so you'll create an inverse deal on the other end?
mjr_: anyways, financial engineering should allow me to abstract away whatever risks i don't want, and focus on the risks i do want, and then collect on those risks
mjr_: i was saying similar to, not the same
mjr_: i can get <money> cheap here, and i can lend <money> for more there
ThickAsThieves: there's no interest to carry here
mjr_: eh, its really just abstracting the currency and focusing on the market
ThickAsThieves: seems mor elike gambling to me
mjr_: for example, if i borrow yen to lend out dollars (yen is low yield, dollar is higher) that is a classic example
mjr_: i think this is more similar to a Carry Trade, rather than an arbitrage
ThickAsThieves: new issues arise if you become a target though
mjr_: i would raise money to start market making aggresively
mjr_: well, if i come up with a strategy that works, and can mathematically be shown where exactly my risks are
ThickAsThieves: i think you're okay
ThickAsThieves: if you can properly cover your ass, and only intend to offer small amounts in mid-market
mjr_: its closer to a standard deviation
ThickAsThieves: to average them
ThickAsThieves: but that seems to be too simple
mjr_: mp chooses not to hedge options, which is perfectly valid
mjr_: my calculations over the last year on a daily basis (365 data points) show a historical daily volatiltiy of 120
mjr_: i mean that is my goal, to figure out if there is something here, or not
ThickAsThieves: so i think what you are really looking for
mjr_: but need to test a LOT before i try that
mjr_: and i think i can perhaps offer lower prices
mjr_: so i have been applying standard tools to these options
mjr_: then i can/should treat it as such
ThickAsThieves: i think it is neither
mjr_: that was an oblique reference to a harry potter fan fiction (LOL) in which harry is curious about the arbitrage possiblity between wizard gold and gold on the spot market in the muggle world
mjr_: then i want to see how they compare against their "muggle" counterparts
mjr_: if they aren't magic
mjr_: concepts like theta, gamma and delta are irrelevant
mjr_: if yes, then i should ignore every mathematical model that the financial world has constructed
ThickAsThieves: i dont think time decay is built in but its possible his volatility portion of the algo outweights it
mjr_: just cuz vwap is the same with 30 days left, i shouldn't pay the same as 1 day left
mjr_: because to me it doesn't seem like it is
ThickAsThieves: dynamic to the vwap
mjr_: basically, i'll just come out and say it, is time decay built in
ThickAsThieves: and open to adjustment like every 10min or so
mjr_: i am saying, they are adjusted every day?
CheckDavid: I will look more into this later
mjr_: does the bot, change them, or have they basically been static (what i am assuming)
mjr_: do the prices of the options adjust daily?
mjr_: i think
mjr_: or is accepted to people who send in >100 btc with the last 3 digits set to 8
mjr_: but that is monthly and uses an auction symbol...i forget the details\
mjr_: mpbor or something like that
mjr_: hmmm....i think that the bond has a symbol too, but i can't remember what
mjr_: but i guess those are the three asset classes
mjr_: i think we all went over the symbology last time mp changed it
emptyeddepended: thanks for the explanation
mjr_: i think
mjr_: S in the context of mpex means Security i mean
CheckDavid: considering the dot
CheckDavid: is there anything to interpret in it's structure?
emptyeddepended: but there is no official name convention
CheckDavid: What about the S.MPOE
Namworld: It means exactly that
CheckDavid: Or something like that?
CheckDavid: So PT means pass through?
mircea_popescu: however, it's well discussed there , this future of payments in bitcoin topic.
mircea_popescu: well may be an idea to read back becauyse there's some great stuff in 2012. i'd love to find you the exact one but i gotta jet right now
ThickAsThieves: and linked to me
mircea_popescu: consider that most in light of the effects of me saying "stop buying"
mircea_popescu: it seems to me you're the only one who doesn't read trilema
ThickAsThieves: subscribe to that vision that is
ThickAsThieves: but it's quite interesting to me that no one else does
ThickAsThieves: but an eventual instrument for the wealthy?
ThickAsThieves: so you don't see bitcoin as a the populous currency of the future?
mircea_popescu: and if that'd happen they'd immediately buy groceries.
mircea_popescu: for the benefit of people whose income could at most be upset by finding 20 bucks on the sidewalk,
emptyeddepended: headline is to exaggerated though
ThickAsThieves: wiki says "Private parties do not hold or use them."
mircea_popescu: makes you part of the 1%, that.
mircea_popescu: just like i showed the SDRs as the exact equivalent, and people ignored it because well... they never had one so it don't exist. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and everyone ignored it because welll... they didn't like to hear it.
ThickAsThieves: so btc is for the wealthy?
mircea_popescu: but they make a poor standard, as they're not wealthy or socially needed.
mircea_popescu: i understand that the life of most consists of a daily struggle to produce "A little pocket change".
mircea_popescu: would you then not need to pay bills ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what if you turned all your dollars into land ?
ThickAsThieves: you are saying my complaint is, damn the dollar is worth too much today
CheckDavid: it doesnt? So he has to sell his house as well
ThickAsThieves: but when i must pay my bills and buy things not available in btc, I then look to the exchange rate
mircea_popescu: if you turn all your dollars into btc ostensibly political process and government behaviour no longer affects your wealth.
ThickAsThieves: but if i turn all my dollars into btc
mircea_popescu: why are you not in #dollar-assets then ?!
ThickAsThieves: so my concern is for the dollar's value
mircea_popescu: it does, the other way around.
mircea_popescu: and mixed up the possesive.
ThickAsThieves: how does the exchange rate not matter?
mircea_popescu: the only way the terms make sense is if you're talking about fiat's value (in Bitcoin)