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mircea_popescu: for the needs of this, however, we'd have to keep a list of bots, which is mildly obnoxious.
mircea_popescu: i think best would be if phf Framedragger and everyone ever running a log bot limits the number of lines the bot will read without interruption from human to three.
phf: unless you post a mutually recursive url (one that contains both links at the same time and references another one that contains both)
phf: but there's a nifty way to bring down both bots, which i think i should fix asap
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [13:28:09] <asciilifeform> Framedragger: in case you didn't know - kako sits on a tall pile of earlyadoptronium (and also bbetronium)
asciilifeform: or lulzy sealandisms, 'One of HavenCo’s main investors, Avi Friedman, was worried about the Y2K problem, so he withdrew about $2 million in cash, in $100 bills, and kept the cash at home. He doled out $1,500 at a time, to make minimum payments. Lackey started using his own credit cards, spending ever more money that he didn’t have.'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/TnGrv -- 'For a while it looked as if the situation could escalate. A Justice Department lawyer representing the NSA demanded that Gilmore surrender his illegal copies and threatened that the NSA might send its own operatives, or FBI agents, to seize Friedman’s proofs from Gilmore. The cypherpunks were worried — especially Gilmore’s lawyer, Lee Tien. They were worried not just for their own per
mod6: <+asciilifeform> we burned it out of trb with hot irons, first thing, for a reason. << werd. thx.
asciilifeform: 'GB-OS has standard UTM features which can be augmented with subscription options that enhance the firewall capabilities. ' << can chump buy a working rng??
asciilifeform: 'Introducing our most powerful firewall UTM appliance - the GB-2600 UTM firewall. The new firewall appliance is powered by a 3.5 Ghz Intel i3 Dual Core CPU, with 4GB of RAM, 8GB static memory storage and provides 6 fully configurable gigabit network interfaces with the option of adding multiple 10G network interfaces. Enhanced Virtual Private Networking with hardware acceleration is standard on the GB-2600.' << but apparently 29 divi
asciilifeform: davis is a respectable man !11111
asciilifeform: i can picture some nut in a jail cell, to whom they gave a computer. for 20 years. and we get this.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 13:57 pete_dushenski: that alice_ was a character. much log skipping.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536057 << the git link was a brainmelter tho. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: they're a buggy implementation of half of common lisp!
pete_dushenski: "Firstly, you see ? Firstly, how you convince the girls you're a Casanova riding two stallions. Then, how you lose your virginity. In that order.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought gena was a test suite.
mircea_popescu: which has been, of course, a point throughout these many many years.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger eh, right. they'll go to coinbase instead. like before, there's a reason for that "these people have money?!" - mp laughs ; and the reason is that people who have money either do better research than this or else soon enough don't have money.
pete_dushenski: that alice_ was a character. much log skipping. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: in other news, my best tenants of all time are leaving at the end of the month. a sadness is me. i give chances of equally quiet, punctual, respectful couple 2:1 against
asciilifeform: we burned it out of trb with hot irons, first thing, for a reason.
trinque: Framedragger: your mouth runs a bit, you know.
asciilifeform: (upnp) 'There is a heap buffer overflow vulnerability in the create_url_list function in upnp/src/gena/gena_device.c. I first discovered this vulnerability when working with version 1.6.19 and have confirmed that it also exists in the latest code on the master branch.'
Framedragger: that's a ridiculous slippery slope; street thieves also run private business enterprises in that respect, i suppose
trinque: are we back to opining on a man's private business decisions like it's reddit or what
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: absolutely. and at the same time you can understand why a bunch of people do not intend to hold any money with you ("these people have money?!" - mp laughs), because even if the "ban" is legit, it doesn't exactly inspire things.
asciilifeform: or it gets excited and runs a little too long
asciilifeform: i happen to think that kako was a bloody fool for signing up for '0 asset corp'
mircea_popescu: the anal child's "you didn't buy me my toy so it's your fault i'm a junkie" only works in the mind of the anal child.
mircea_popescu: that it's a smoothly working machinery, where escalation was tried and failed and then tried and failed and then and failed AND THEN TRIED!!! and failed does not excuse one from pretending "the last step" is "because the first step".
mircea_popescu: Framedragger sure. businesses will on occasion run into unexpected costs. this is a fact of [business] life.
mircea_popescu: if someone shouts "down with the government" and then tries to grab a policeman's gun, he will be prosecuted ; and he will obviously claim "it's political". nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: it's not "x was wrong, bad alfie!" it's "well review how x worked and it'll offer a model for how y works"
jurov: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/51gjs3/hillary_just_vomited_snot_into_a_glass_then_drank/
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [13:28:09] <asciilifeform> Framedragger: in case you didn't know - kako sits on a tall pile of earlyadoptronium (and also bbetronium)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but your expression of that position came from five minutes of being a teenage boy alone.
mircea_popescu: so yes, in this sense, it IS a "mind thing"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my position came from a substantial stint of actual study and experiment with llvm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as a model, i propose to you that there's no substantial difference between this and say your bizarro position re llvm yest.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: in case you didn't know - kako sits on a tall pile of earlyadoptronium (and also bbetronium)
mircea_popescu: ftr : my "fuck you, you may not be poor and be here" is not (as i'm certain oft perceived, because why the fuck not, it's easier) simply mp-superby. it is a strict and absolute necessity for one's own mental health.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it's trauma, dude. he did what he earnestly believed was right at the time ; turns out to have been entirely and unmitigatedly wrong. this is catastrophic, and especially so in poorly socialized, introverted, intelligent males. now gotta reevaluate everything, the evaluations often don't come out meaningful, the correct alternatives are frequently perceived as alf-impossible, it's a mess.
asciilifeform: the really depressing bit about kako is that he floats in a vacuum now.
mircea_popescu: to get back to it, "i am suspicious of this mp fellow" is not an ideology ; nor in itself much of a problem.
mircea_popescu: is the idea here that "whatever, we've already fucked ourselves with anyone with a clue, might as well say things that'd perhaps persuade a fraction of anyone else" ? or what, is "nigerian" more of a state of mind than a state of pigmentation ?
mircea_popescu: yeah well, these things take a while. go have einstein write up "his something" the year prior his writing it you know ?
Framedragger: my frustration with kako is that he doesn't think it's worth the time to write up a coherent narrative from his point of view. i'm sure it'd be useful to have it. maybe it's because it's impossible to have one in that case; maybe not; i for one don't fucking know
mircea_popescu: anyway, so what's the problem ? guy thinks he's on to something, this is the bread and butter of a life of the mind.
Framedragger: ftr i haven't made up my mind and a man is more complex than just a binary state machine
Framedragger: ‏‎punkman:flimflams: "oops flushed the orderbook again", "oops mispaid dividends again", "HELLO I AM THE CEO OF BITCOIN, HERE IS THE BITCOIN EXAM, oh what do you mean btc addresses don't keep a balance?" "it's not socialized losses, it's btc cartelisation research" "you were being an asshole so I banned your mpex account"
Framedragger: asciilifeform: thanks for putting words into a person's mouth, i'm sure that did great justice. you call this ideological? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2016#1453186 << i call this just being more critical and reflective ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. 'ideological' #b-a perma-resident.
mircea_popescu: btw, i'm writing a mega-piece on clinical psychiatry. so save yourself an hour this evening.
scriba: You need to give me a link to a specific IRC line so it can be quoted. Use either "from:line_number" or an anchor ("#line_number").
shinohai: I used a willie bot a long time ago, was rather good
Framedragger: a*
Framedragger: (sorry about log spam - i'll fork the bot into a development branch (new features and bugfix tests) which will run on a separate test channel.)
ben_vulpes: nothing to see but a pile of hurr
asciilifeform: there's a ~bottomless pit in there.
asciilifeform: 'i never used a key befoar'
ben_vulpes: niad is a mispelling of something in that scratchpad
asciilifeform: but not a niad.
asciilifeform: we know what is a naiad.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu alice_ log was solved with a spiritual, not a religious solution
alice_: i've never used a key before
alice_: also, that's not a private key
alice_: i don't know what a longfp is
asciilifeform: alice_: why did you give your private key to a buncha strangers ?
asciilifeform: alice_: you register a pgp pubkey fingerprint.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "tradition2" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
jhvh1: 4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
alice_: i'm looking for a harder, more powerful way
jhvh1: 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
BingoBoingo: <alice_> e.g. ML is a sharp, crystalline beauty, mostly useless for my direct purpose but v inspiring, 'cuz it's got several neat patterns that i don't see in most popular environments << "v inspiring" is a term of art here
alice_: asciilifeform: i am a young transhumanist-hopeful type. i've supported myself with programming before; currently i'm living off savings & spending time studying shit
trinque: afaik you identify as a pony or some shit ☟︎
asciilifeform: alice_: describe, approximately, what is a you. (e.g., butcher, baker, oil prospector, bankrupt lisp programmer, etc) ?
alice_: a powerful pattern
mircea_popescu: god almighty, it's like a pregnant idiot delivered stupid all over the fucking logs already.
alice_: if they're smart enough to use a standard pronoun :P
alice_: i added sd as a chord for ι because i do use ι frequently
asciilifeform: i know what is a chord.
alice_: then you are a person whose right hand gets tired and you should not use this exact system
alice_: yes. if the keys are pressed within a small number of milliseconds.
mircea_popescu: girlfurniture surely is a large fetish thing.
trinque: there's a whole genre of japanese porn of this
asciilifeform: there was a box for a head at the outlet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didntcha post a photo of an invertible toilet once?
trinque oinks a bit, allows
ben_vulpes: (but hey that particular porno is worth a watch, and that particular report of wastage entertaining)
asciilifeform: my bash doesn't have a lambda.
alice_: asciilifeform: ? like, if i paste the last several lines into it, i get \n -#'-:<>?LMX[\]-\_a-pr-zʳʷʸζᴱᴵᴼᴾ-ᵂᵉᵒᵖ-ᵘⁱ│
trinque: more importantly, are you now, or have you ever been a brony
alice_: asciilifeform: prints a regex character class which matches all of the code points in utf8 stdin
alice_: e.g. ML is a sharp, crystalline beauty, mostly useless for my direct purpose but v inspiring, 'cuz it's got several neat patterns that i don't see in most popular environments
alice_: asciilifeform: never used any of those. a fan of some of their patterns. i'm a fan of a lot of patterns i've seen in a lot of different existing programming environments.
ben_vulpes: subject of manuals, a onetime airforce honcho straigh up vetoed the delivery of f22 manuals in xml (!), as pilots couldn't take the un-sensitive stuff home without also taking the sensitive stuff home as it was delivered
ben_vulpes: ofc blame it on the crew, what is lockheed to deliver serviceable machines with complete manuals all of a sudden?