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mircea_popescu: im not capable nor interested in specifying. fact remains - a dozen dudes either did something ro didn't do something. if they did something we can discuss the history of the thing they did and what it says about them ; otherwise, we can not.
mircea_popescu: phf im starting to understand the problem though. here it is : engineer will not consider inconvenient problems. NO MATTER WHAT. that is why he's an engineer : because paradigm made him a personal promise.
mircea_popescu: you will note however that ~all communication~ rests on hallucination in the sense here contemplated. and we're right back to 4->5.
mircea_popescu: aite, then i guess it can't epxlained what the people invovled were stupid for having not done.
mircea_popescu: look, there's no crevice here to slither into. either you grant "they did" or else you admit they didn't do anything. pick one.
mircea_popescu: you'll have to pick a door (for the needs of this conversation only)
mircea_popescu: so you don't particularily want symbolix metal, it\s just some random thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform indulge me for a moment here. so, would you agree that a specific and specified problem (make a computer!) was actually resolved by a number of people ?
mircea_popescu: because monkeys. i dunno, seems likew i;'m repeating myself.
mircea_popescu: when you're the only twelve guys on monkey island you don't fucking disagree. because there's nothing to disagree ~about~. because there can't be.
mircea_popescu: the time for "debates" is when you're installed in power and are preparing to withdraw the power from the plebs. you create a trappings-of-power artefact through the magical working of dialectics, heap it upon them in exchange for the actual thing and move on. that's when you do "disputes".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the circumstance ? this isn't a given iyo ?
mircea_popescu: it's on the level of "great monk died - syphilis". come da fuck on. have better problems!
mircea_popescu: but anyway, leaving this hot coal for a while also, consider THE FUCKING INDIGNITY. you're telling me the dozen was split up by a convenient application of... a socialist marote ? same thing sunk lisp as the international ?!
mircea_popescu: this equality doesn't hold. it's not a matter "we don't know". we know what the environment constraints are, and we do not care what their internal processing is. if they fail to act rationally they did it randomly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the rest just happened to fall into s or lmi randomly as the wind blew ?
mircea_popescu: the only reason mit even exists in this picture is because the dozen was "omfg, we DID figure it out, now quick, find someone TO PROTECT US FROM OUR HAVING FIGURED IT OUT!!1"
mircea_popescu: phf this part is fine. now, why did they fail to a) band togetgher and b) control, deliberately, the product.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, in the above retelling, the 4->5 transition is the coup the grace. they couldn't "follow" each other ~because~, in this view, they were bereft of sufficient bandwith to in any sense communicate. so they couldn't, like, end up with all the same one substitute cuntcap.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: im not sure that's even discussed, here. what theorems are involved in handmaking symbolics gear
mircea_popescu: they all ended up with random substitute hymens and that's the last time anyone heard of any of them.
mircea_popescu: 1. a dozen mentally retarded girls were afraid of their own cunts ; 2. so much so as to need to be 50 before they'd finally deflower ; 3. except they did it in such a manner as to replace the insulatory function of that with various other ersatz-hymens created out of material collected in the environment ; 4 but because they were mentally retarded no possiblity of meaningful communication was open to them and so 5. therefore
mircea_popescu: market is not weighing machine to start with. it gets there, but it starts as something else. derping about "justifying commercially" is the EXACT equivalent of not talking to girl for nerd reasons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see ? where did THE INVESTMENT!111 come from!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought symbolics was mostly hand made originally.
mircea_popescu: this is not exactly correct, which is why i linked the article i linked.
mircea_popescu: investment is entirely divorced from this "justifying commercially" business.
mircea_popescu: groupon, its exact clone 5 years ago, meanwhile imploded. where did the billions come to make ~that~ particular iteration of nothing whatsoever into "biggest ipo ever!11"
mircea_popescu: fuck, HOW is airbnb supposed to be worth 50 bux ? it consists of... nothing.
mircea_popescu: how did the investment come considewring there wasn't anythning there besides "we'll try to win on execution without a clue or a GED, against people with money and significant entrenchment" ?
mircea_popescu: golden age of bitcoin forum invesmtnets, dude did horribly poorly ~on investor's money~.
mircea_popescu: what next, i can't justify my saturday night guest list ~matrimonially~ ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun think teh theory ever went in the vein of "ubermenschen (exact clones of mircea_popescu , presumably ) and untermenschen ('socialists' or anyone who substantially differs psychologically from mircea_popescu )" eh ?
mircea_popescu: ~any 16 yo figures out her chief order of business is trashing the damend thing, why's it take moon 50 years ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but anyway, leaving this hot coal for a moment -- why the everloving fuck did it take them so long to lose virginity! yes, EVENTUALLY moon "finally we take this tech private". but how fucking unobvious can it be that mit is exactly the equivalent of hymen, there to insulate girl from control of her own cunt ?
mircea_popescu: amusingly, apparently everyone there knew this, too. "he's no captain, he's just a dude with a small penis who figures the world owns him reparations for it, so captaining will work by itself"
mircea_popescu: so your proposition is that engineers are cursed by the gods in that they can't follow each other, gotta follow a different kinda guy and if they don't get lucky to find one will just symbolics all over the place ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. why didn't everyone follow ? moon was eminently followable.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin-assets split sold with the rest. why didn't moon's corp ?
mircea_popescu: how the fuck they managed to think mit is anything but ~the only thing they must destroy~ is beyond me however. seriously, how the fuck does that work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but you couldn't find petition introduced by hoplite because "life's too hard and i want an ipad".
mircea_popescu: ated their own aesthetic notions of "competition" among themselves, instead of setting boston on fire.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, thinking about it, it'd seem to me the only possible explanation of
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1641002 is that the golden dozen lacked ~any conception whatsoever~ of the enmity of mit. like dodo birds, went happily to the necessary eventual slaugther because failed ot perceive usg must be destroyed not ignored. in a field arbitrarily (and perhaps not exactly accidentally) limited in this manner, they cultiv
☝︎ mircea_popescu: they were interested in resolving the problems of the group, mostly in the shape of not getting wiped by the parthians.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform socialism is the proposal that the problems of individuals will be addressed by the group. the spartans made no allowance for the problems of individuals.
mircea_popescu: but more appropriately i think you could say "cowardice expresses itself in fundamentally defective individuals, as well as in those who spend too much time in cowards' company".
mircea_popescu: which'd be ~why~ specific republican artefacts (above approximated as firehose) result in the "educational split" so to speak.
mircea_popescu: now, obviously other than the people who ~are made of~ shit, you can also have people covered in shit. these, however, can wash. even if they're not necessarily distinguishable on superficial examination -- put the firehose on them and you'll presently find out.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to take the thing back to rms and friends : socialism is not a political choice, it's a psychological defense. it expresses itself in fundamentally defective individuals. tis what it is.
mircea_popescu: (ie, little jane stuck too early with too much male attention she doesn't know how to handle (in no small part because her mom's a retarded jen and had not the sense ot have sisters etc) will grow defensive. but it's to my eyes rather a different strand. quite evidently so : she's immodest in private.)
mircea_popescu: because if i make them strip, jane's DD look better than jen's A-
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i currently find the notion persuasive. jane and jennifer are both interchangeable as 3 yos, but as they progress to age 23 it becomes apparent jeniffer jsut never had the tits in her.
mircea_popescu: all kids appear healthy, but the brains of a precious few are deffective, and as aging exposes them to the challenge of correct diversification, it turns out they ~were all along~ schizophrenic.
mircea_popescu: i also do not think one can become a socialist. they're all born this way. it's braindamage, basically.
mircea_popescu: she's still a woman even at a time prior to having foaled.
mircea_popescu: hence all his imbecillities with "log scale for music payments by downloads" and whatnot other respectable sovietisms.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect rms did no such thing ; but that he correctly believed that if structured as ~radical~ socialism, socialism may be made to appear palatable to intelligent people ; at any rate more so than the commodified variant.
mircea_popescu: the notion that there can be an apolitical something is like the notion that there can be a transparent non menstruating woman etc.
mircea_popescu: why such rotten bullshit would get a flat no in return is directly obvious.
mircea_popescu: mno. his question was "why do these 12 people not see the glory of socialism and dedicate their lives to making every receptionist live in luxury she can't pay for"
mircea_popescu: NOW -- the question is why did this fucktarded dozen decide the best thing to do is make 3-6-howevermany "Competing" entitite.s
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