log☇︎
87800+ entries in 0.79s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i propose name 'piratic license'
asciilifeform: !up the_scourge
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: right, i was talking about the world at large. you can stick a fork in journalistic integrity, it's done
mircea_popescu: <the_scourge> like we're back in a weird 'sleuth and journalist > public opinion' game which was lost a LONG time ago << public opinion only matters in fiat backed worlds.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: yes
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes mod6 ^ does that sound like something teh foundation might support ?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you will find that one of the more interesting ideas we run with in #b-a is that public opinion isn't a particularly interesting concept re: bitcoin
asciilifeform: the_scourge: the only genuine oddity is that the selection process was not described
asciilifeform: the_scourge: if, say, it were a random selection
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but i was digging for proof that a) there are < 0.8 nodes in the candidate list b) none were selected
asciilifeform: the_scourge: no one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: purpose of experiment was to demonstrate the fact of.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000046.html << comments/thoughts ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: it is supposed to show directly the clearsigned text that was used to validate the message
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: turdatron, as originally built, expects a pattern like this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000040.html
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150203/header-bitcoin-src-21may2012_8b34d7ebf677c0fb6434ef87c18492857af9e391.asc
asciilifeform: !up the_scourge
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like your post was originally rejected by turdatron because it did not contain a machine-readable signature for the tarball
asciilifeform: the_scourge: not long ago, kakobrekla finished a rework of wot. so there are a few hiccups
assbot: irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn4pjB )
PeterL: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
asciilifeform: kakobrekla, is the_scourge in the new assbot wot ?
asciilifeform: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=the_scourge
the_scourge: 16:45 <gribble> You are now authenticated for user the_scourge with key 300A9F6A3D0564B4
asciilifeform: get in wot the_scourge
assbot: the_scourge is not registered in WoT.
asciilifeform: !rate the_scourge 1 new blood, seems like a reasonable fella
asciilifeform: the_scourge: huawei corp makes lte modems
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'sparkfun corp.' sells a lte simcard good for 6 months, ~80 usd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ty!
asciilifeform: the_scourge: LTE << what country ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: the email is out, after a bugfix (to account for application/pgp mimetype properly)
asciilifeform: the_scourge: i've discovered that cellular modems, at least in the way they are operated in usa, are immune to this type of ddos.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: would you care to post it publicly ?
the_scourge: asciilifeform: the network guys at $my_client are actually top-notch
asciilifeform: the_scourge: from packet dumps taken by myself and at least 2 other folks here, appears that mr. ddos uses mainly 'amplification' method (ssdp, ntp)
asciilifeform: the_scourge: didja measure?
asciilifeform: !up the_scourge
jurov: mircea_popescu: your pastebin doesn't verify
trinque: mircea_popescu: and apparently http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GreencoddsTenthRuleOfProgramming
assbot: 1 results for 'this_is_lame.txt' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=this_is_lame.txt
thestringpuller: !s this_is_lame.txt
jurov: phoundation's seeds replaced with this_is_lame.txt, distributed
asciilifeform: ergo the experiment described in this_is_lame.txt - probably did not say anything new to the folks here, but may benefit the students
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you read the 'go for tea' letter
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no you didn't
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/this_is_lame.txt << copy
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: see this_is_lame.txt
jurov: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was not able to determine why sig is bad. pls pastebin the original
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/this_is_lame.txt
trinque: select id from transaction_output except select output_id from transaction_input
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has the right idea - deliberately underspecify the seed list
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: outside-world addrs will not spontaneously appear in a cliquegraph
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking of the mostly failed revolts in fr, elsewhere
cazalla: mircea_popescu, maybe, but i read demand for au minerals has tanked too
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 05:34:16; mircea_popescu: decimation suppose you were king, and ordered the leningrad of paris. what then ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the rebellion thing is not a cowardice problem as such but actually a byzantine generals problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever have a ru physics textbook with the jumping chinese example ?
decimation: mircea_popescu: but you said the same plan would not have worked for Louis XVI
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your advice makes the same amount of sense as solzhenitsyn's
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << <mircea_popescu> then start shooting police officers coming to steal the cash.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: e.g., everybody in the store would need to move to that planet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see the old threads re: nontriviality of hooking up to cash world from scratch
cazalla: pete_dushenski, ty
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> it's this particular concoction of the forcible solipsism of crusoe with the narcissism of a fifteen year old boy that grew up alone among cows, with the desperation of a dying beggar on the dark side of the moon. << ahahaha best review evar
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934517.0 seems you've been superseded
asciilifeform wonders whether, if mircea_popescu offered a bounty, one of the flunkies would walk in with 'smoking gun' dirt
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not certain that a scan taking >year is worth much
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see the linked 'mass scan' readme.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not sure if aws will even put out raw packets
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it needs roughly same resources as a good spamatron
punkman: mircea_popescu: no
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you actually want to see this done, and have not yet done it?
asciilifeform: i assume mircea_popescu did similar experimet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as it is, it's a fallback after dns (snipped in patch i proposed last night) and irc mechanizms.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i posted that earlier today. observe: if the hardseed list were actually used with any frequency, we would have noticed the scarcity of still-usable seeds therein ages ago
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, yours eaten too
mod6: yeah, i wanna re-iterate here, all of the wedging issues ben and I had were /with/ checkpoints included. if we apply the rm_checkpoints patch, no longer a problem.
asciilifeform uses bitcoin as a scientific toy, curio, but if he had been firing it in anger for years as mircea_popescu had, would have finished own implementation eons ago
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: guess who also keeps vintage blockchain around
mod6: but then i applied the rm_checkpoints patch and then it continued on np.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and it reads as the usual tedium because it -was- same, with words swapped
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is (i thought this was very obvious) a spoof on subject
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't grok wtf this is supposed to be << was written when the whole 'pronoun warrior' thing was brand new
mod6: and TomServo was able to run with the following config and just achieved full sync: v0.5.3 + {1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7}
mod6: but, its weird, because a week ago i ran a full sync of: v0.5.3 + {1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, 6} and sync'd just fine, as you can see in the matrix notes (was able to send/receive here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FSA9gxs8)
mod6: also, v0.5.3. + patches {1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 7} (which includes the version update)
mod6: we're interested to see if anyone running: v0.5.3 + patches {1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, & 6 (db_config) } runs into the same issues.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the only way to develop a new idea was to be born rich << or... take it. chingis khan style.
trinque: mircea_popescu: it's part of the awful libvirt wad
trinque: pete_dushenski: the vc fairy wanted 67% of my business
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu thanks for the translations :D
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu then a dayjob keeper is me!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it still sucks :D
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu thanks for the notes on that last article
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doug h is sui generis. can't really place him in a genre. he wrote a number of tomes for folks who like mathematics (in particular, logic and theory of computation), languages, translation. he is also a fairly good translator of ru->eng, even rhyme-preserving pushkin. blew my mind.
asciilifeform: https://whoisology.com/email/archive_8/domainadmin@fdvt.com
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> like the ents or something. << Where did all of the nodewives go?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: deserves a post << see thread here first
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes demanding to be gassed by gestapo ahead of schedule, lol