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nubbins`: anyway, you can't really make it out, but pascale's dad is second from the right in that painting
punkman: this is quite common: if C trusts the B->A connection, but A doesn't trust B->C, then C will often "send first" as to eliminate risk for A at his expense.
punkman: if the due diligence doesn't get you anywhere, then you still have other tools. The fidelity bond is a good one, insurance another... any other good examples?
punkman: that doesn't create trust where there is none
cazalla: well if it isn't the merchant meme teasing redditor Pierre_Rochard
punkman: and you can't magically make it appear out of thin air
xmj: delegation isn't the part that interests me
chetty: perhaps I should have said, shouldn't be. people do manage all sorts of stupids
fluffypony: I wore my DM Baar t-shirt yesterday
xmj: fluffypony: suppose i know you and cazalla but you don't know each other
TheNewDeal: after reading, still not sure on what the consensus was? Really doesn't matter, because you don't know what future bets will be?
mircea_popescu: i don't drive.
nubbins`: i can add it to my collection of tapes that i can't play
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mpex.net | ... mpec · mpeepee · mpeg · mpenzi · Mpex.net · MPF · mpfag · MPFF · mpffffffffhahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh · MPFH · MPFM · mpfree ... Mpex.net isn't defined.
nubbins`: if you can't do it well, do it for an unpleasantly long time
nubbins`: i don't think zebras have six tits at any location on their body
nubbins`: well ya know. realism this ain't
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re aaron toponce's "urandom, random, same thing&what the hell's the difference", i guess some people just don't wanna sit down and actually get a megabyte to work on.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: for this application, i don't really need the stiffness of a traditional cnc rail set. but the '3d printer' kits are also unsuitable (poor accuracy, and they usually have moving tables.)
dub: don't forget to IPO the result
mircea_popescu: isn't this like exactly the opposite of what should have happened ?
bitcoinpete: i can't wait until dentures make their way into the north american "sharing economy"
bitcoinpete: i wonder if they get second-hand dentures from the western world in the same shipments as t-shirts and jeans
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: “In order to ensure that the Island’s [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (“AML/CFT”) framework. " << right. anyone who didn't see that one coming should not be a ceo in the first place.
mircea_popescu: FabianB i don't see it tho, from my side ?
mircea_popescu: FabianB i don't, so i'm just shelving it.
mircea_popescu: FabianB: doesn't depend on rating amount << til fabian is a fucking heretic. SMALL AMOUNT OF DEPENDS!
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: no depth, orders don't fill as desired
mircea_popescu: "but there is some ambiguity in this bet depending on the time zone..." <<< "I'm the last person on earth to not know what timezone bitbet uses through no fault of my own and also not having bothered TO READ THE MOTHERFAQING FAQ! and so therefore there's ambiguity in this bet. Not in my dumb fucking head that wouldn't be fit to grace a gargoyle. "
mircea_popescu: don't you now feel sheshul.
benkay: just addressing your mischaracterization of me. just because i have opinions about mpex agent's test suite doesn't mean i don't do manual data munging (or have people do it) when appropriate.
jurov: that isn't substantially different from what i wrote
benkay: i don't *need* things any particular way. i *build* things a certain way to reduce my future headache.
mike_c: i've heard anecdotally that companies don't like to sign contracts with LLCs, but not sure why.
thestringpuller: Wasn't bitcoin-24 some like asian kid just getting in college?
thestringpuller: can't do that till I get to my key machine
FabianB: doesn't depend on rating amount
nubbins`: really didn't think they'd be this hard to find
mircea_popescu: dub seems a little quiet << assbot won't relay till i get a hold of kako to allow teh connections.
mircea_popescu: don't choke, swallow.
mircea_popescu: game 13 ?! wasn't it 17 ?
BingoBoingo: %t
jurov: dub where you got it from? i can't dig anything about mpex.co from here
mircea_popescu: sooo... dns doesn't want to propagate ;/
BingoBoingo: It isn't like the blockchain demands timestamp precision
decimation: apparently the firmware in the watch: 1.) doesn't use WWVB to correct its long-term frequency error 2.) produces a one-second offset when synced to WWVB
decimation: mine is about 5 years old and it loses about 10 seconds per month if it doesn't correct from WWVB
BingoBoingo: %t
BingoBoingo: After that you chase caesous precision because the fans can't slice cheese or something
asciilifeform: incidentally, quartz oscillators generally don't come in the GHz range. there's a fairly modest (<100MHz) crystal and a PLL multiplier. which compounds any error...
mircea_popescu: dub i don't use vendor supplied firmware.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall reading about that, why teh russians couldn't make good crts. quantum effects.
BingoBoingo: I've long imagined a wrist portable watch with RTG (RTG also heats crystal) I'm resigned to knowing such a device probably wouldn't have the power to offer man readable time without an unacceptable risk of wrist cancer
nubbins`: threads mean you can twist 'em off, doesn't it?
benkay: hey nubbins` what's with these threaded beers you can't twist the tops off of in bc?
BingoBoingo: I didn't know it was /this/ bad. I almost would rather believe this is for people building plasma rifles on the down low.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr32/flyingbest/cd.jpg?t=1246632694
asciilifeform: the problem, in case anyone doesn't know, is presently dealt with through luck and brute force.
asciilifeform: short version - bacterium isn't a sled dog. he won't work if he doesn't 'want' to. (expressed in actual flesh as the formulation: the ones without the 'work' trait - e.g. secreting dope - tend to outperform their 'useful' peers in reproduction)
asciilifeform: the point about 'liveware generally doesn't wanna be used' can only be appreciated by folks who tried to breed industrially useful bacteria (e.g. e. coli secreting a saleable substance) - and the problems in that business
asciilifeform: used. Machines aren't supposed to be like that. Machines are supposed to do what you want. Which means that both the designer and the user need to control them.' (one mr. kreinin, with whom i have a number of disagreements, some public, but good point about meatware. -- http://yosefk.com/blog/high-level-cpu-follow-up.html)
asciilifeform: 'I want to build machines to do stuff that someone "like us" wouldn't want to do, for any of the several reasons (the job is hard/boring/stinky/whatever). And once I've built them, I want people to be able to use them. Please note this last point. People and other "nature's computers", like animals and fungi, aren't supposed to be "used". In fact, all those systems spend a huge amount of resources to avoid being
mircea_popescu: doesn't load here.
pankkake: namecoin was there before, and litecoin isn't the first scyrpt before
pankkake: don't listen to litecoiners history rewriting
asciilifeform: such as it. doesn't have to be on an island, strictly speaking.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't on an island.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has been enacted by the fiat of a few important people, a few years ago, exactly in the same manner. they weren't THAT important as a % of the world, but that doesn't matter : bitcoin can't be un-enacted by the fiat of much larger entities. it has a cost of x to make and 1mn x aren't enough to undo it.
mircea_popescu: so : atc is not driven by "user adoption". it's driven by the fact that i'm buying it. in this context, if "evil" entity decides to just mine all the blocks, nobody gives a shit. so txn aren't included ? whatever.
mircea_popescu: i don't get how this is supposed to work. so he mines and doesn't include txn
mircea_popescu: isn't atc merge mined by default ?
mircea_popescu: FabianB he said he's travelling and the bot croaked, can't touch till he's back
BingoBoingo: I don't rally think the Fairly comments on Bitbet really hurt BitBet at all http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2048
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine anyone really cares.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu didn't have 'grep' before ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nsa-sponsored attempt to survive << they won't really worry until wintel stops being a thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't read the comments yet, but I wonder how many read it as a proposal for linux developments as opposed to IBM advertorial
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves i don't follow, so did the coupons yield boxes or not ?
benkay: i don't watch nicks/joins/parts
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this isn't how it works.
Namworld: So I have this cat I just adopted. He's always following me around and tend to lay down at my feet. Won't let me sleep, walking on me and trying to get under the sheets. So I close the door to the bedroom. Then shortly later, I hear the cat and look. He's inside the room playing. I think wtf, must have slipt back in while I was closing the door. I go put him out, close the door, go back
mircea_popescu: http://this-is-not-jewish.tumblr.com/post/34344324495/how-to-criticize-israel-without-being-anti-semitic <<< ahahah, "don't use what happens to be the largest, oldest and generally speaking most important european meme, because it may butthurt jooz"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://youtu.be/rR56uNg2XQs?t=2m43s << finally found the ancient cartoon with the schooltard who zaps all of history so he doesn't have to pass exam.
BingoBoingo: Right, or an AT&T or another sophisticated herder of consumer cattle
BingoBoingo: Also not there aren't very many "Halliburton Stadiums" because the contractors that abide know lean years are possible
mircea_popescu: thanks to all the inflation, they're safe : they didn't have that much to spend anyway. i doubt anything under 1bn even registers anymore, especially after the great successes of govt contractors in the mideast.
asciilifeform: it's a good job that f-students can't actually break mathematics.
asciilifeform: (setq #f #t) << actually evaluated this in a 'lisp' i wrote as a schoolboy. mega-lol.
mircea_popescu: but it does mean that IF it were to exist, we can't say anything about what it can't do./
mircea_popescu: the rules as they are preclude its existence. that may not mean it can't exist,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be fair, the machine (as described originally by r. feynman) doesn't divine history a la asimov's 'chronoscope', but merely computes certain classes of function unusually cheaply.
benkay: <fluffypony> an Oculus Rift, or the entire research lab they have? // i can't wait for the full-wraparound displays with lots and lots of pixels
chetty: seems to be a sort of generic friends day, can't walk down street without hearing it today
mircea_popescu: not from anyone else. and it doesn't even do such a good job of hiding it from you yourselves on a long enough timeline.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who fucking asked amazon fanboi there to pass his judgement on de raadt, but i can state for teh records it wasn't me.
xmj: even if i don't deal with US through it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...died from an infection in 2010... << the rate at which these people die of preventable causes is ridiculous' << quite likely, that fellow really died of - sleep deprivation. compromised immune system. and yes, one wouldn't expect an actual 'master of the universe' to succumb to sleep deprivation. senior bureaucrats, on the other hand - sure.
asciilifeform: i don't really see all of this as adding up to a solvable engineering problem, but catch myself thinking about it now and then anyway.
nubbins`: (isn't this roughly what an air exchanger does?)
nubbins`: we have climate of a different sort here, to the point where i can't recall ever seeing an air conditioning unit in a private home. at the risk of asking a silly question, could one have the unit outside the room and vent the cool air in?